Please give killers the ability to ban a realm from the pool pre-queue.
The vast majority of maps fall into the survivor's favor, please let us ban out at least 1.
Maps like "The Game" are a complete waste of time for most killers, and nothing fun ever happens because it's pre-throw central into chainable safe loop etc.
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If only survivors ban killers if they don't wanna play against.
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Why not let everyone to ban a map? I'd have no problem with never visiting Midwich again. Making it exclusive to one side appears entitled. There are 5 people playing.
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How is that even close to the same thing?
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How about both sides get to ban maps? There are around 40 or so in the game, why not let both sides ban like up to 15 or so? So the remaining ones will be the ones considered to be least problematic.
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Honestly, as much as I spout the merits of map offerings, I think it's got to the point where we just need to introduce a map vote/ban system as standard, seperate from the offerings system.
Not only does it cause controversy (justified or otherwise), but there are just too many unique offerings now. Even if you wanted a particular map, it can take you upwards of an entire Prestige worth of bloodwebs to find an offering for it. So it's a system that's disliked by many and awkward and inaccessible for those who use it.
I think each side choosing 4 maps to ban (one each per survivor), then having a single 'favourite' map each. You exclude 8 maps from the running, and if the 'favourite' has any matches between the killer and at least one survivor, it gets locked in. If not, the favourite has a +25% chance or something.
This would have to happen in the lobby though, not before it.
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Both are ridiculous requests. Both can't happen. That's the point
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One is ridiculous and literally can't happen because it has to occur before matchmaking and will make it worse than it already is, the other occurs after matchmaking and doesn't punish people for using content they paid for. They're nothing alike.
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Nah they both are same.
You hate Swamp and you don't want to play in this map and you are affecting all player in your lobby to not get this map.
I don't like to play against Hag and this will affect all Hag players because i won't play against them.
Both should not happen. And you know what? Both will never happen. Banning X, Y, Z just because players dislike it is never gonna happen and should not happen anyway.
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If you ban Hag, it hinders everyone, because even if everyone else is fine with Hag, they need to wait until the game can find a non-Hag player at the right MMR to match with. 3 other players are also banning a Killer and making the queue time even longer. People are also punished for playing a Killer one person out of four might not like.
5 players banning a map? Matchmaking unaffected, no-one is punished, no-one even knows what maps are banned and the game plays out as normal. I'm neither arguing for or against a map ban, but it's clear those two things are objectively different.
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Hypothetically, if there was one or we're several maps nobody or at least a large amount of people don't ever enjoy being on so basically everyone would block this map with this feature... Wouldn't that be a good thing? Why would you force people to play on a map they don't enjoy? Especially if there are so many of them anyway?
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Nah it affect players with both cases. You are taking a map from people. It won't affect matchmaking but it will affect to people who is enjoying this map.
I explained pretty clear, so i don't repeat myself. You can read my old messages until you understand. If you still don't understand, there is nothing i can do for you.
And like i said, both is not gonna happen because devs are not gonna take mechanics, maps from players just because someone dislikes it. You have to deal with this fact.
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I have to deal with nothing, because as I said, I'm not arguing for or against a map ban. I don't care if it happens, I don't care if it doesn't. Yes, you explained yourself clearly, as clear as crystal in fact. You are, however, still completely wrong. You have to deal with that fact.
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I am not wrong, you just disagreeing with me. And it's fine. I don't mind when people don't agree with me. I can live with that.
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Except one negatively impacts queue times for players, and the other does not.
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Honestly, this is not a matter of "survivor favored" or not, a killer can literally stops working depends on maps.
Won't hurt for giving them something at the very least.
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Well, banning maps would make many killers more enjoyable.
I usually don't like to play killers who are map dependant, simply because sooner or later, you are going to have a bad experience outside of your control.
It's not really fun to play Singularity on Lerry's, or Dredge on RPD etc.
If you let killers, or all players ban some maps, then pick rate of those killers might increase.
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yes cause killer banning one map/realm is equivalent to survivors banning up to 4 killers
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I'd rather they tweak the maps to remove any imbalances, real or imagined by some. That way the offerings would be for simple preference and not for an advantage.
However if we're going down this rabbit hole, how about this:
In the last twenty seconds of the lobby countdown four maps (no repeat realm) are displayed. The killer then can veto one of them. The survs next vote on the remaining choices, and the killer breaks all ties. SWF of three or four have no votes, leaving it up to rng at that point.
Favored maps due to new release or major overhaul make up two choices displayed, of two of their variants should they have any.
Some killer builds like shyttttttt-yourself Myers won't appreciate this, but I have the feeling those builds will be gone at some point anyway.
Thoughts? 🤔
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Yeah it's not gonna happen dude, so bad you have to deal with maps you dislike.
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It would be a cool offering. Use it and it prevents the map from being selected next game and cancels any map offerings that would send you to that map.
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I am all for maps being random, 'cause it's literally not stacking in fave of any side, since they're totally random.
Map Offerings however can be really unfair. If anything, map offerings need to be touched up: maybe make map offerings acts as map ban for that particular realm! That way a map is still randomly selected, minus the map offering realm. And you'll need to earn banning a realm in BP web.
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I'm super curious to what map survivors would choose. I'm assuming midwich.
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