Can I get some clarity on tunneling?
I always thought I had a decent understanding of it, but I've been trying killer more lately and I have gotten some accusations of tunneling.
My understanding of tunneling is targeting a specific player until he/she is dead.
If that is the case, then I can say I've almost never done that unless the person is going out of their way to be awful.
However, I've had instances where I'm accused of tunneling for when I go after someone who had recently been unhooked because they ran out in front of me and there is no one else around. Am I supposed to ignore the survivor who foolishly ran out in front of me when I can't see anyone else? In another instance, I was against a team that was in all black except for one guy in bright blue. I actively tried to go after a different survivor, but I quickly lost him in the shadows with his dark colors. Meanwhile, this bright blue guy sticking out like a sore thing tries to sneak by. Sorry dude, I tried to go after someone else, I failed, and you just happen to be a neon sign. I wasn't actively trying to tunnel him.
And lastly, in a first for me, I had a team rag on me for "tunneling generators." Not players, but generators. I am not sure what they meant by this as I was going from generator to generator looking for survivors. Am I not supposed to go where the survivors go? It's not even like they didn't have a fair chance as everyone was hooked twice before I got my first kill.
I guess my questions are
1) Is it tunneling when I go after the only person within my field of vision? I am not talking about waiting near the hook for the same guy. I am talking about leaving after hooking and the guy who was unhooked just had the misfortune of running into my path and no one else was around.
2) Is going from generator to generator now considered tunneling?
I acknowledge that killer isn't my strong suit and I try to play in such a way that the game is fun for everyone, but at the end of the day, my role is to kill and I'm not going to not do that.
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It’s not so simple, tunneling is in reference to tunnel vision. So focusing on anything to much would be tunneling. If you go on a 5 gen chase and don’t even kill the survivor or even hook them you were technically still tunneling. But the most common thing referred to when the word tunnel is used is the 3 hook tunnel where you immediately go back to hook and go after the unhooked person instead of the healer or someone else. If you look around for 30 seconds and run into the recently unhooked survivor again I wouldn’t call that tunneling because after all they can hear you coming and could leave/ play more safe.
Going from Gen to Gen is not tunneling that’s how you do your job. I don’t try to tunnel but sometimes you aren’t left with an option. If an injured survivor body blocks for a healthy survivor with BT then I will tunnel that survivor. If it’s the only person I see I will tunnel them because a lot of times other survivors will notice and come take hits and then I’ll switch targets. Also if a survivor gets unhooked and stays injured and hops on a Gen I will immediately put them back on the hook. If you wanna sacrifice your heals to work on a Gen then that’s on you and I’m gonna go for the weakest target but that is considered tunneling by some.
I would say not to play for everyone’s fun because someone will always be unhappy. I did that for the first few years and it was exhausting because people would still cry in egc no matter how I played. And a lot of people would bm me for losing even when playing nice. Maybe I’m jaded but I play for my fun now.
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Tunneling means that you want to kill / killed them😂
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It's a buzzword at this point. But the most straightforward definition is "Going out of your way to hook a single survivor 3 times in a row to the point of ignoring hooks and downs on other survivors"
Attempted tunneling is still tunneling, for example getting ran for 5 gens having only chased one person, but never downing them or swapping targets because they outplayed you. Or hooking someone once, then spending the remainder of the match looking for them as they hide from you after getting unhooked, instead of downing and hooking someone else.
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Thanks for that. I have gone back to the hook immediately after an unhook plenty of times, but that's generally because I hadn't even gotten out of the vacinity yet and it would be faster to go after the unhooker than it would be to hunt someone else. Maybe I'm in the wrong, but I don't think I should feel guilty about that when they're not even giving me enough time to leave the area.
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You’re not wrong. It’s the best choice to make. Why should you hunt for a survivor that may or may not be across the map when you can hunt the ones closest to you? They just get mad that you’re not playing how they want you to play, by handicapping yourself.
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Why even bother? I had "-rep tunneler" in profile from dude, who died first being 7th hook in the game after two different people were hooked. So many players are just babys, who can't accept the L. Don't even waste your time on this.
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I think it is pretty simple:
1) Intentionally going for the same survivor who was just unhooked and especially when you could easily target the unhooker
2) tunnelling as in tunnel vision - killer refuses to drop chase with a single survivor even when being run past other survivors doing gens and long past the point where switching targets would make sense.
The former is the problem here as it often means the survivor being tunnelled cannot really play a match as the killer relentlessly targets them in an already weakened state (injured from already being hooked) and more unethical killers will specifically target obviously newer players as easy prey.
When is tunnelling okay? Well for me if a survivor tries to force me to eat the BT hit when I always give them an opportunity to make distance so I can target the unhooker, I will consider them as wanting me to tunnel them. When all gens are done and it is contesting the last hooks of the match before the rest exit and finally if survivors are toxic tea bagging etc and I mean toxic, not just they got flashlight saves etc.
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For me there are 2 types of tunneling, namely hard- and soft-tunneling:
Soft-tunneling for me is going for the person that's the nearest to die, BUT ONLY if I see them. I won't look for them specific. (That's the one I use mostly)
Hard-tunneling on the other side is instantly going back after unhook and chasing the person as soon as possible out of the game. (I do it sometimes, but not as much as soft-tunneling. Also I love being hard-tunneled as survivor because trying to survive is fun for me).
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Killer = Tunneler.
Survivor = Gen rusher.
It's that easy. You can have 9 hooks and no one dead (had that once due to a weird bug) and you'll still be a tunneler. Just as survivors that dare finish the last gen against a 3gen Merchant (no longer in the game) after 54 minutes are gen rushing.
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I do the same thing and If a survivor runs right by me to unhook I’ll even try to prevent the unhook entirely if I can. There is no reason they can’t wait for me to leave.
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Tunneling is a meaningless term survivors throw to try to make you feel bad. I had a survivor claim I was tunneling them when they escaped out the exit gate solely because I kept starting chase with them for Play with your Food.
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The Survivor on the hook doesn't have the opportunity to deny a risky unhook if their teammate wants to farm them for points, so if you want to play nice you could ignore the unhooked player and try and find somebody else. Sometimes there isn't a choice to wait for a better time, but I'm sure we've all been unhooked right in the killer's face before and it's a little bit annoying to be double teamed by both your teammate and the Killer in these situations. The unhooked player is being punished for somebody else's mistake here.
But it's up to you how you want to play, of course. I find it best to match my opponent's energy. If I have 3 or 4 hooks before a single gen has even been completed, then I can afford to play extra nice. But I might punish mistakes like this if I'm losing badly and I won't feel too bad about doing so.
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The only mistake you made was letting a sore loser’s comment affect how you play. Having the intention to try to give each survivor a chance is a great way to play. This unfortunately will still lead, at times, to a negative response from both ones who lose and succeed. The best way is to just enjoy the game. You know you more than they do.
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It’s very simple.
“Tunnelling” is an excuse you can use when you die.
It puts all blame on the opponent and absolves yourself of any error so that you can soften the blow to your ego when losing a game.
Be sure to ignore any practical scenarios or mistakes that make hooking you again over someone else the better play.
It’s never ok for an opponent to leverage your errors, they are simply vindictively ruining the fun by tunnelling.
Remember it’s never your fault. You don’t have to improve. It’s the game that has to do better, be sure your opponent knows this. Point it out vehemently!
Oh and occasionally it means the killer just chasing you and no one else till elimination.
That about sums it up.
(Those of you without a sense of humour need not reply).
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I don’t even play into that anymore. Tunneling is just part of the game.
Funniest instance I had was against a streamer who I found 20 seconds into the game and he instantly starting screaming and complaining that I was tunneling him…. Nobody had been hooked… he was my first chase. I was dying laughing he was so enraged.
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Don't really pay attention to end game chat if its negative. Some people are trolls and are just trying to get under your skin - I doubt they even think they were tunneled, they are just trying to upset you.
I've always thought of tunneling as the idea of going after the first survivor you find until they are eliminated, basically ignoring everything else. However people use the definition in extremely different ways, making any discussions about tunneling virtually impossible.
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I used to play a lot when the post game chat could be absolutely horrific, so I have a habit of immediately skipping the post game chat if I'm anything other than mediocre (IE, I do poorly or good). That said, I've noticed people lately really want to make sure they say something, so they post on my Steam profile. I don't understand who goes out of their way to do that, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't unintentionally being an ass.
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You shouldn't care about other people's opinions on your gameplay unless they're sharing tech/tips/etc.
Did you have fun? Great!
No? Try again >:3
A lot of people that play this game have been stuck in a miserable mindset for years - you'll identify some on the forums quite easily by their postings, in the end game chat by their bashing, etc.
It's a weird combination of ego and victimhood mentality that causes me to roll my eyes into outer space.
Play the game your way and be civil - regardless of outcome, you'll always be a winner :3
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