So...are all the survivors dead?
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I think Tapp and Quentin make this clear.
Tapp was shot. If you disregard the Saw game, he died at the end of the first movie. However, he was still taken.
But Quentin... well, he was not dead. He seemed to summon the Entity on his own to make Freddy disappear.
So, they most likely aren't ALL dead, but they did something to get the Entity's attention. We can say with some certainty that Jane, Tapp and Adam are all dead, but the others might have just summoned it by accident.
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Some of them are dead, while others are currently missing. Survivors like Tapp, Adam and Jane are pretty much Dead. The only survivor that was physically taken by The Entity was Kate. Everyone else pretty much got lost in the woods.
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Any idea why The Entity got physical with Kate?
Was it Kate's jorts or... was it something else?
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@bubbascal "Kate Denson is a hopeful songbird, able to make the most of her surroundings." HOPEFUL, and the entity is eating hope. so she has lots of hope. Maybe that's the reason?
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You didn't get the innuendo... darn.
Hmm, maybe that could be a reason why. Kate can spread joy with her songs, Entity might want to get more direct to put panic into Kate's heart instead of subtle captures like forests or taking others when on their death beds...
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The survivors died in our world, but I would assume to a being like the Entity death is a mere petty consideration. They may have died here, but if The Spirit is any example, they are brought back to life. Only to suffer in a eternal 'hell'.
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@bubbascal i think it was Kate's jiggy bewbs lol
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Unless they somehow got revived by the entity so the entity could take pleasure into their forever lasting sufferment that the survivors can only temporarily escape by getting mori'd or sacrificed. But then, they go to the exact same spot where they would have gone if survived ; The campfire. So death seems completely irrelevant in the Entity's realm.
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I'm pretty sure they aren't exactly dead. But if they somehow anyhow escaped Entitity, those that were taken before dying (Rin, Adam etc.), would be dead.
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Tapp was shot
Amanda was shot
Jane crashed
Adam got hit by a door.
The entity probably took them before impact killed them or before they bled out.
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I thought about this topic really much. So, here is my thoughts and conclussions.
You guys missing one obvious thing: if survivors are really dead and they going through trials in some kind of afterlife, why in our world not a single body were found? In Jake's backstory, police couldn't find his body in forest. This is believable, I think. But in Adam's backstory his body wasn't found in crushed train. Only his bag. Is this belevable? Really doubt. But, hey, in Jane's backstory, if I remeber correctly, her car was found without body.
"Ok, but what about Bill? He was dead and later his body was found!"
Let's look at his trailer closely.
We can clearly see that he didn't died, according to trailer. And I also think, that this trailer take place AFTER his body was found. So, technically, he was lying unconcious for some time, but not dead.
As for me, more interesting question here, why didn't he infect everyone with Green flu in Entity's realm. He is some kind of passive carrier without syptoms, according to L4D lore.
Now, lets's recall Spirit backstory. Here we can clearly see, that Entity is capable to ressurect people. Or, atleast, don't let them die. So, everything else don't actually matter anymore.
TLDR: Survivors bodies were transfered into Entity's realm. Survivors in trials either alive or ressurected after their death in our world, but, well, technically, alive anyway.
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None of them are dead.
They all were taken before they died, same goes for killers. Everyone is alive. They answered that question on the lore streama a while ago.
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Actually I think they all are dead.
Why do they spawn in a puff of smoke? Why can there be more than one of the same character? Why do we still get to play them when they die? Why do they call the games "trials?
a) They spawn like this cause they're the entity's reconstruction. b) They're reconstructions so there can be more than one. c) They're reconstructions yada yada yada. Because there are different variations of the SAME GAME, you don't get the same gameplay every trial so that means that the trial's are the entities playhouse.
Also consider how the survivors are Sacrificed. They're impaled by the entity and rise up to him so it basically has their body and can do as it pleases with it.
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Well Adam isn’t dead I read this in a different post but it seems that the entity and death have an alliance and like in final destination death causes disasters and the entity picks someone to take away.
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You've given me an idea on how the spirit world might work. In this thread I described the known dimensions. The entity perhaps could warp the real world a lot more then I initially thought, from distracting to-be survivors into aimlessly wondering through a rip into the spirit world, to physically manifesting to snatch them up, but then that brings the question of Auric Cells in. If the entity manifests via auric cells, how do these cells apply to the real world? How can it manifest? Perhaps it's creating itself in the spirit world then reaching out, using what it can access in the spirit world to control them.
In any case, the survivors and killers were not killed as far as I know, but 'rescued' on the verge of death or snatched up beforehand in missing persons cases, that's why their bodies were never found.
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They spawn like this, cause Entity works like this. Entity is capable to teleport you in lobby.
Same survivors is possible, cause, as we know, Entity is capable to take survs from different realities(L4D, Saw, Nightmare on Elm street e.t.c). So, just like this, Entity is able to kidnap different Dwights, who look different cause of skins, for example.
As for sacrifice ritual - we know that death is not escape. So, in Entity realm survs can't die in, like, absolute way. They kinda immortal... And I bet, they regret it.
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I think they are kind of frozen in time. Can't really die, won't age, etc. Stuck going through a time loop of sorts.
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