'Every killer should be like Blight/Nurse'

All gripes are personal, my friend.

The PTB twins are definitely broken and definitely need an increase in hardness time after an attack, etc. However, it has been a few days since the update implemented infinite endurance on the live server due to OTR and other effects. If this bug(?)may be a message from BhBR that this level of strength is needed if it is to become a spec.

Every killer blight / nurse doesn't mean it should be easy

This is what the developers want. They want all killers to have a 60%+ kill rate. They want survivor to be as bad as it was at patch 6.1.

That is literally their goal.

If Wesker is a healthy benchmark for every killer then Huntress and Trickster needs buffs again because Wesker is definitely better than both of them by a pretty good margin.

Im sorry, but how do you make a Tier List and put half the Killers in A-Tier?

Not trying to be rude or anything, just I really don’t understand what basis you’d use to come to that conclusion.

For me, a lot of Killers are within B-Tier and C-Tier, obviously not the entire pool of Killers, but a majority are just “decent”, not bad, not amazing, just “decent”, which there is nothing wrong with that since Killers can be “decent” and still be viable given the right build.

In an ideal world every killer would be mid A tier in power level however, within the confines of what dbd is and with how many killer powers are designed it isn't feasible. Ontop of that ideal certain killer perks would be reduced ofc.

There are few killer designs I deem fit to be A tier or even inching into S tier: Blight, Plague, Oni, Wesker, possibly artist, Pyramid head(a coin flip here, but he has some glaring problems that could fix the unhealthiness of his kit) and Huntress. As far as I am concerned no other killers could be put on weskers level without feeling awful to play against. Even someone as beloved as demo being buiffed by 15-25% in all aspects would push him to a point of uninteractivity. Wesker outside of his infection tunneling bit is the best designed killer in the game imo, that's coming from someone who mains blight. Spirit, chucky and nurse don't deserve to be half as good as they are, they are just far too simple and strong to warrant their strength.

I would have put billy up here previously but honestly most billys just return to hook and trade which even when put into the highest level of play takes little macro to understand the timing to return. Within the span of a couple months they buff billys turn duration by 33% and remove the hug tech, both having very similar properties and both originating from an something unintentional.

A-tier seems like a good benchmark and most people I've heard have said similarly. The only people who ask for Nurse/Blight to be the base power level are comp players because at that level A-tier killers are still kinda weak.

Nurse and Blight are also reasons why some perks are weaker than they could be. Because old Pain Res would be no problem on Nemesis or Ghostface but put that on Nurse or Blight and suddenly its overpowered

Except the tunneling, yes.

You guys acting like Nurse and Blight are the same, but they aren't. Blight is storng, but counterable. He doesn't ignore windows and pallets and your own skill means a lot against him. While against good Nurse there is literally nothing you can do, only hope she will do a mistake.

Nurse? No. But Blight is orienteer, yes. Strong and counterable chase power, good map pressure, good addon variety. So yeah, every killer should be like Blight.

I thInk a SLIGHTLY weaker Oni is the ideal standard.

With or without addons?

Ok. Thanks for clarifying that. Though, I do think that is a little bit low because Oni's potential can vary quite heavily. With a bit of luck you get your power early on and become quite a beast but with a bit of bad luck you find yourself on GoJ and only get it very late. Addons make him more consistent in that regard.

I know I keep nagging but could you go into more detail? 😅 We have a few hyper mobility killers, that in theory have somewhat similar kits in the sense that they have a chase power, mobility and a side objective. Even current Freddy would go into that category, although he is weaker in every regard.

Hyper-mobility can be tricky to balance because of the way survivors have to play around it. They are powerful abilities, after all.

Hillbilly and Oni are good examples of well-designed killers with hyper mobility. Hillbilly has the charge time to keep in mind and Oni has to build up his power, but in return they are gifted a good power. That is fun, and fair.

Wesker in the other hand, is a perfect example of a horribly designed killer, for a power of that nature. He has barely any charge time to worry about, he can vault, he creates a countdown towards Hindered and he gets a notification of your location as soon as you get rid of the infection (which you have to do).

Even if you somehow play perfectly against him you will go down, because you will get slowed down and once you're fully infected he only needs to get you once, while not worrying about… well, anything. And it doesn't help that the few resources you can use against him are scarce, thanks to the map reworks.

He is not unbeatable, of course. No killer is, except for a Nurse who plays flawlessly. But I don't think his power is healthy for the game.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention his incredible potential for tunneling. As @C3Tooth pointed out.

I would be happy to never see this killer again.

I mean Wesker also isn’t an anti-loop killer (technically). So… that’s something, right?

I don't know, I'm so tired of getting absolutely nothing new or exciting on the survivor side for months and month. Anti-facecamp? Haven't seen a single survivor jump off the hook in my games yet. Anti-3-gen? Haven't saw eight regression events on a gen yet, only the higher base kick regression + removal of gen tap is apparent every match. New perks were between meh and so bad it's ruining the match if one player brings it (hello Weaving Spiders). Right now it feels more that the killer buff trend will accelerate. I bet when we get the roadmap for the second half of the year there's again absolutely no good news for solo players this year.

If they would buff every single killer to new Twins level and beyond, maybe even to the point that every single match is a 4k at 5 gens (maybe except when comp teams play against brand new killers with sub 100 hours), they would finally have to come up with something positive for survivors because there's nothing left to buff on killer side.

Nah, it is just the truth, friend.

Wesker is by far my least favorite killer to go against. Never thought I would dislike a killer more than I dislike Ghostface, but here we are.

Agreed. I hate going against Spirit, Blight and Huntress. Nurse is crazy strong but it's rare to go against a good one. Wesker is fun to face imo.