DC penalties should be obsolete with the addition of bots
I've been having issues with my dbd, working closely with tech support on it. During testing with them my DC penalty is now at 6 hours. I've sent them everything on it, my files on my computer, screenshots of errors, I've verified my files, and nothing has worked. They can't get rid of the penalty for me because it's "completely automated" like #########? We're testing this ######### together and you have no way to waive a penalty I shouldn't be accruing in the first place because YOUR game is the system not working??? It's absolutely ridiculous. It's still kicking me out and they've refused to help me saying they'll pass my info on. To who? I have no idea. I do know that I went two days with no error kicking me out then boom today I get booted and 6 hour DC penalty is back. Fix your game. It's not my system, not my internet, not my problem. You should've fixed it for me and waived the ban.
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I can't speak to your technical issues, but I wouldn't mind seeing disconnect penalties removed now either. As you pointed out, with the addition of bots and now with the recent addition of no pip-loss, leaving a match shouldn't leave you penalized. While I never really leave as a killer (because really… it's so easy to play and you have the vast majority of control in a match), I've been seeing a tremendous increase in tunneling over the last month or two that it just makes the match far from fun. Right now, either penalize yourself from a time-out or penalize yourself by continuing the match… not exactly fun options.
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No, because then every single game would result in killers playing against all bots. Because the first person to get downed would just immediately DC in the vast vast majority of games, and then the rest of the players wouldn't want to stick around because they don't want to be stuck with a bot.
On the flip side, if the first couple of gens get done too quick (I.E. 3 gens for the 1st hook, which is quite common) killer immediately DCs.
Basically, instead of actually playing the game, you would be attempting to play the game as nicely as possible to prevent the other side from DCing. But you don't know how "nice" they want it. Creating a stupid metagame that is based around making sure everyone doesn't DC.
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Other than hardware and game issues this community has proven why we can't disable DC penalties for good.
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Absolutely not.
The bots are only a minor compensation for the awful players who leave their teammates handle a killer "alone".
Besides, bots are not fun to verse.
If anything, DC penalties should be increased.
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Agree.
Here's what should happen:
Remove the lobby entirely.
Remove any in-game names. For example, Pulsar would be Steve_Harrington 01 until the End-Game Screen.
Remove any indication of who has been replaced via bot. This promotes witch-hunting players outside of the game.
Show Prestiges in post-game screen, show who was grouped up together.
Remove the ability to self-unhook besides specific perks. Rework Slippery Meat.
Remove DC penalty.
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This.
I really like the idea of not letting people know someone has been replaced with a bot. When I play survivor I would much rather have a bot on my team than a person who dies on hook or when you go to save them, they will have a temper tantrum and go around throwing every pallet. If someone doesn't want to play a round, they will find a way to end it early while screwing over the other players. You cannot change their mind by saving them before they die.
Bots will continue to do gens, they will heal another player, they will try their best to loop a killer. Give me that over someone who doesn't want to play for whatever reason. Would also solve hacker games (killer just DCs and moves on not having to worry about a timer). I think it's time to really consider removing the DC penalty.2 -
I think it will be even better when the novelty factor wears off.
Most players don't remember not being penalized for DC'ing. It's a shiny new toy, but it'll fade in time.
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- why?
- bad idea, more difficult to identify people
- and thus you think you play against a brain (well half of one if he DCed) but you play against a cheating bot? No, never.
- completely irrelevant at that point
- 4% (well, about 12) doesn't need to be touched
- never, or a lot of matches would be against bots, killing the interest of the game completely. They do that, they can close shop.
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- Dodging, Sniping, Targeting, etc etc
- That's the entire point. You shouldn't be able to ID and target people.
- Why does it matter if someone DC's but you had a good time anyway? Would you even notice? Probably not.
It's pretty clear you're just against it to be against it. None of your points make much sense and only serve to allow people to continue to harass and antagonize others.
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It's always weird to me how much players of DBD want to not play DBD.
DC penalties exist, because when they don't people just leave games for whatever reason and it makes trying to get legit matches nearly impossible.
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There should always, always be a DC penalty. It keeps players who don’t think a DC penalty is worth it in the game. If you remove the penalty there will be a substantial increase in DCing and more matches in which killers face bots. Which is not multiplayer gaming; it’s boring.
When you purchased this game you agreed to be sportsmanlike. You have a right to leave but the devs have a right to penalize you. This is of course addressed to people who DC intentionally unlike in your case. But they should be addressing crashing issues or reworking the system’s way of determining if a DC is intentional, not removing DC penalties altogether.
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Of course I would notice. Bots play like idiots but with wallhacks. They are no fun at all to play against.
Nobody plays this game to play against bots.
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People do, actually, play the game to make other people miserable. It's not as uncommon of a playstyle as we'd like.
You wouldn't know you're playing against a bot, nor would the other Survivors. There's always improvements to be made to the bots, but they're miles better than a teammate who doesn't want to be trapped in a game.
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Without the DC penalty, players will just quit games they're losing.
Everyone will have max MMR, because quitting will avoid any negative MMR.
You will never open the gates because killers will just DC once the 5th gen is repaired if they haven't killed anyone, to preserve their precious MMR (that they simultaneously and unironically hate).
May as well just play custom games against 4 bots because that's what you're gonna get.
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Um, no. Bots are the replacement to a backfill in a traditional multiplayer experience, but they suck massively. There's already plenty of times where one person leavingc causes another surv to leave as well, and that's with a penalty. No penalty means more matches where you get zero progression for your time, because a killer doesn't want to play against 4 bots in pubs. Yet if you leave a 10 minute match with 4 bots and two gens, you forfeit your 30k or w/e bp, and that sucks for each player involved
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The system can't tell the difference if a player DCd intentionallly or not.
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Isn't it a problem in support and system than DC penalty or anything
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Aren't you playing killers from time to time? One would have to be blind not to spot a bot.
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Maybe, maybe not.
I'm perfectly fine with seeing people DC, some people seem to take it too personal
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Terrible Idea.
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"personal" huh? it's objectively hurting the game, because this is the online game which is more or less meant to be played with humans
Not to mention the fact every players must press "ready" to join a match, which means "I'm ready for playing out a game to the end"
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Issue is you would need to remove DC penalty for both sides and that simply can't end well.
If you think it would work, then you are just naive and most likely don't play multiplayer games for a long time…
So many players DC when they are about to die on hook, that's like 10 seconds of waiting, but they rather take DC penalty. Doesn't make sense at all, how do you think it would go, when those people can DC at any time?Btw playing against bots is so boring, so I will rather not make it a regular experience.
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And people's answer is to double down and make sure those people have a worse time.
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