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Boring slugging for the 4K
So we all know that a 2K is a tie. Anything below is a loss and anything above is a win. So when you have a 3K as killer, you won. If a survivor gets out with a hatch or opens the gate to escape, their team still lost and the killer still won. Giving everyone base kit unbreakable is too strong to stop a 4 person slug, but what about a one person slug with only one other person in the game with you? I think that's when a survivor should be able to pick themselves up.
I think majority of players can agree waiting on the ground as a killer stays near you as they look for the last survivor is boring and unhealthy for the game. The killer already won if they just hook that survivor and that survivor then dies. So why not let the survivor who was left on the ground to up themselves. I would even argue if a killer is so many meters close to a survivor - they then get built in endurance for x seconds so they can't just wait for them to get up and then down them again right away in this situation. If I could DC and move on, I would, but I don't want the DC penalty.
It could even be like hook proxy, that if the gates are powered, then a survivor can't bring themselves up.
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If you didn't want to spend the rest of the game on the floor, you shouldn't have been shining that flashlight in my face all game and then attempted to run off to a deadzone in some corner of the map to give your equally obnoxious friend a chance at hatch.
In all seriousness, I don't slug for the 4K unless the survivors were especially annoying and/or the fourth survivor was in my direct line of sight when the third one went down.
It would unbalance the game if you allowed survivors to hard counter slugging with anything basekit, but there shouldn't be a DC penalty if there are two survivors left in the game and one of them has been slugged for 60+ seconds. We have bots now.
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I usually don't slug for the 4k, although I have when I thought the team was really annoying, or needed more hooks or kills for challenges…
Generally though, it does get really old for survivors. I totally get it when they know where the other person is already and it's just a matter of winning 1 or 2 chases, but it does feel really dumb extending the game for like 3 more minutes just waiting for the person on the ground to bleed out.
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Considering the mmr system counts a hatch escape or everything beyond that point (gate escape after hatch closed) not towards mmr gain or loss the killer technically "loses" those mmr points he does not get because of this mechanic when he does not get the 4th kill… So by that logic alone it is completely fair that he can do that, and since it is probably the most reliable method, considering how random hatch and everything beyond that is I don't see a reason to change that.
If you want to have a look at that whole thing then we might as well come up with something else other than hatch, because it basically saves a survivor from losing mmr points despite not being able to accomplish the goal of doing all gens and escaping.
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Crazy entitlement
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Great counter argument. Groundbreaking. Not wanting to be stuck on the ground not being able to do anything in a video game is a crazy entitlement.
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basekit unbreakable in the 2v1 only would honestly make the game better. Slugging for the 4k is just being annoying for the sake of being annoying.
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Which should be changed to work for as long as nobody escapes via the gate. Some challenges even have this as a requirement as a opposed to 4K because unless you slug it is down to luck but that’s okay. Better having a bit of luck then having prolonged periods of doing nothing.
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