Thing that keeps me mad for a month

First time I’ve ever used the perk I got my first ever 5 gen chase and have never been able to come close without it. A bad looper may give up the pallets instantly but if your team has a single brain cell you would have 3 gens popped by the time they go down. And bad loopers usually can’t find loops to begin with or don’t know that pallets have been used.

I have never downed a single person I thought who was bad at looping and found out they were using Windows. It is in fact an overpowered perk that is only bad on people who have less than 10 hours in the game.

I think you're massively overstating how much work Pop requires. It's literally just playing the game as usual and kicking a gen in a certain time window.

Windows is a terrible perk that just acts as wasting a perk slot as a killer you really should cheer that the other team is playing with 25% value of perks

• I think the problem wasn't POP, but POP combined with 2 - 3 other regression perks (which was very common). if the killers had limited themselves to using one, maximum 2 regression perks per match... I don't think we would have reached this point. for killers DBD is a game where time is precious... but it's the same for survivors; if you add 30 seconds (for example) of regression to a generator every time it's a problem. It has nothing to do with the "boring of repairing the generators", but because the resources on the map (pallets) run out, so each chase will be shorter, and in the end the game will be lost "automatically"
  (obviously from the perspective of a killer who plays decently... if you are a mediocre killer no perks will help you)

NOTE: I agree with you. POP was the most nerfed perk

the reason windows doesn’t require anything to activate is because it’s just an aura reading perk💀it’s like bond.
also getting pop goes the weasel to active is just normal gameplay. Nothing special. There are a bunch of killer perks that active with you doing nothing so going at windows of opportunity is pretty pathetic

That was not your argument.

You directly compared Pop to Survivor perks, not to any other Killer perk.

Try not to move your own goalposts :)

DBD is an asymmetrical game. You cannot compare the two sides as they are, for all intents and purposes, different games.

Pop does not require much, objectively. If you are playing DBD, assuming you are somewhat competent, you are going to get downs. You will activate Pop. Comparatively, Pop is slightly, and I do mean slightly, more difficult to activate than PR, in that you need to walk to a gen. Much less difficult to get value than Ruin though or more derived slowdowns, like Sloppy on a stealth Killer.

Once again, Survivor is effectively a different game. The roles are uncomparable.

I saw this exact argument when Pop was nerfed the first time.

I personally love the reason for the PainRes nerf more "want to make this Perk less of a clear choice for all builds". The nerf didn't change anything in terms of perk choices. If they want more perk diversity in killer builds they just can't only nerf the good ones and leave the average, bad, and risky ones as they are since otherwise the nerfed ones are still the best choice (players still run Pop, Pain, GE, and Corrupted). However, nerfing the best perks and then hoping for a change is the easiest way.

I understand what you say. Some nerfs on one side were absolutely fine since they were not healthy for the game like old Eruption. However, it always depends on if it's not healthy or if you just want a change when the metagame gets stuck and stagnates and in my opinion the developers wanted the second one. I can understand that facing full slowdown - basically the same build again and again - every match is not good and the meta is stucked but just to nerf these things won't bring a change. I think the developers went the easy way by nerfing the perks without giving us alternatives to use different builds. Thus, they can't say that since otherwise they would expose theirself but giving a bad reason is also not good. I really hope the developers will buff or rework other perks to make them more viable. Some perks just need a little tweak (reducing or increasing one number) to be good. It's not that difficult.

There is also the problem that the developers didn't ask themself why many killers run full slowdown: With the recent nerf to all the strong perks, playing weaker killers became much more difficult and harder because they are rely on this extra power as their mainpower is rather weak. The stronger killer,s on the other hand, don't mind these nerfs very much. They still perform very great. The result is that many (or at least some players) will stop playing these weaker killers and start to play the stronger ones which means that survivors will still face the same full slowdownbuild but will see more often Nurse, Blight, Spirit, and Wesker. I don't think this is healthy. Sure the developers give weaker killers some good QoL changes, tweaks, and buffs but many of them feel a little bit of a makeshift repair (e.g. Bubba has still some issues, Demogorgons Portals are still weak, Pigs Dash is only a little bit better). And in return they nerf some of the stronger killers like Blight and Wesker which is very good (no complains about this). It is also questionable if it's a good idea to nerf the perks that these killers need first and then buffing them a few months later (Freddy, Trapper, Sadako, Ghost Face, Legion and some more still feel rather weak).

I complain about community's hypocrisy (what is understandable, because
survivors are majority), that extremes should always be banned/nerfed
on one side, but they can safely exist on the other for long years.

I think I understand this correctly, if not please correct me: This is a general issue on both sides because many players play one side and missing the other experience to understand why some things are the way they are. I played for along time competitive Pokémon and I as well as the opponent played the same game with the same Pokémon and the same experience since it makes no difference when you switch the side: It will change nothing. However, this is not the case for DbD. Playing killer and playing survivor is a huge difference in terms of experiences and feelings. I really wish we could get a modifier that would force us to make the experience of the otherside to understand them a bit better. (I read a lot of posts from you, I know you know that but I want to say it for players that might not know it)

I think hooking a survivor is a good requirement to active a killer perk because it rewards the killer for doing good. There are also not many options besides that since killers don't have the time to go out of their way. If the requirement for hooking is missing or would be take too much time (e.g. blessing a hook for 10sec to turn it into a PainRes or hook a survivor within 30sec after hitting them to activate Pop) then slugging would be much more common since you can win games this way. In addition, if you don't find this requirement good then what is the alternative? Survivors also have perks that reward them for doing what they should do anyway: Generators (Blastmind, Wiretrap, Flashbang) or unhooking/healing (We'll Make it, Botany). Of cause there are perks on both sides that don't have a (high) requirement like Corruption or LP. However, this is more of an exchange for a better early game since this is the weakest point of every killer. Survivors, for example, have WoO that gives them more self-confidence or Bound. Sometimes it is good when a perk has no requirement when it's affact has a healthy effect on the game. However, (in my opinion) there are still perks, items and Add-Ons that are neither healthy, good for the metagame or do something else positive that should be reworked like NOED, Knock Out, Syringe, strong Toolboxes, Distortion or instadown Add-Ons but this is a different story.

Too make it short: even when the requirement is that what you do anyway doesn't mean it is always bad or easy. It can be healthy for the game to not push the otherside in an unhealthy, unfun or something like this direction. There is also the psychological aspect for grind that the hook rewarded you with pressure and then the perk activates and then finding and kicking a gen with good progress feels good for many players.

Devs say some things that make them seem quite out of touch.

The way I see it, this reasoning given by them disincentivizes multiple hook games which I thought was supposed to be the more healthy way to play the game.

Guess I was mistaken.