True reason why knight being nerfed

Personally Im not holding my breath on that. Even if the bug fixes are done I firmly believe they are back after a few patches. That said I agree with you that most of his problems come from the buggy AI the guards have.

But i can make it worse SCAMPER KNIGHT uses only Carnifix anytime a survivor drops a pallet use carni to break the pallet in 1.3 seconds get a guaranteed hit carni goes on reduced cooldown for a 5 Seconds repeat

Lmao 😂 Of course you reference the super biased video where they are using the shiny pin add on which was insane and made her even faster on top of the basekit boost which would’ve been removed just like her belts.

I dont think they are fixing any knights bugs. The guards sometimes gets hits, sometimes they dont. But They have incorporated map of the real into the basekit, and increased chase time by 50% for long patrols, that, on itself, is also huge. Not to mention you can spam assasin if you need to spam assasin, or carnifex if you need carnifex.

If you can be in 2 places at one, doing several actions on different places and pressuring different points, you are not "just a m1 killer"

Every killer is "just a boring m1 killer" if you completely disregard their power and pretend it doesnt exist.

knight pallet breaking strat is a 50/50 while scamper was just free. chucky just had to stand by the pallet and wait for the drop. If knight go into his power and the survivor greet than it over. Survivors will be able to completely leave the loop and u must make a 10m path with carnifix. This is way more of risk compare to scamper or mage hand. Definitely gonna crush weaker players who will always drop the pallet for sure. Players will learn to greet more and treat him like huntress/nessmiss.

It's almost Knight's core design is garbage and they're impossible to make fun for both sides. Knight needs a full rework but barring that these changes are pretty good.

Just to point this out your wrong Peanits confirmed you don't need to draw a 10 meter path to summon Carnifix or a guard to break a pallet you have to draw a 10 meter path to get guards to hunt only breaking stuff does not follow this rule.

Which is why im saying Carnifix pallet break will be meta now that double chase is gone you summon Carnifix when they drop pallet Carnifix breaks it in 1.3 seconds Survs cant make it to another loop in 1 sec i get a guaranteed hit Repeat

Yeah, in fact it going to be better than mage hand or old chucky bc not only will it get you a hit every time but also get rid of the pallet. At least with old chunky and mage hand, the pallet is left intact to be used later.

Obviously 5% is a huge difference otherwise they would’ve made her 115% a long time ago. Or they would’ve made shiny pin basekit. Trickster moves at 96% when charging, 99% with add ons, PP head moves at 110 when charging, Slinger moves at 92% when charging, Billy and Bubba move at 92% when charging and are insta down killers, Xeno moves at 115% and has no telegraph of a tail attack.

So you tell me, why should she stay at 77% again?

Recency bias. Happens alot on this forum.

So u saying if a survivor greet a pallet and bait u into summoning the carnifix u don't have to draw a 10 meter path? even tho it nothing to break because they greeted the pallet and didn't drop it? If so my bad

Did I say 5% is a small difference? No, I said the clip was more than 5% away from not being absurd. As to say whatever it would've looked like without shiny pin still would've been blatantly ridiculous. That's why people said it's a bad change because it's just so obvious to anyone who's not biased.

Trickster - Has to hit 8 times

Pyramid head - Has a restricted camera and relatively slow moving attack

Slinger - Is also problematic

Billy/Bubba - Have longer charge times

Xenomorph - Has turrets

Did forget about these things or just intentionally choose not to acknowledge them?

You clearly never seen her PTB form without shiny pin, nor did you play against her or as her on the PTB, just like everyone else you seen that video and it made up your mind for you. I played her, 20 plus hours on the PTB she was NOT op, the 10 hatchets was for sure but not her speed, not even remotely.

Trickster has to land 8 knives (which is very easy, unless you are far away) but he has a main event (which can down a survivor before they use their whole on hit speed boost)

Pyramid heads restricted camera is essentially a non factor since he is able to chase survivors while holding, zones better than Huntress, zero punishment for canceling, can ignore walls and objects. It’s not very hard to hit PoTD.

Xenomorph almost never gets taken out of crawler mode if they have a single brain cell and it comes back insanely fast when he is in tunnels.

Billy/ Bubba have 2 second charge times, Huntress’s base windup is 1 second. They instadown, she does not, I would say they have a considerable advantage. Not including overdrive for Billy who has a considerably faster charge time.

Slinger is problematic? Really? That’s probably the most insane thing I’ve heard. Him moving at 92% is not problematic at all, unless you mean he’s to slow.

I didn’t bring them up because you don’t even want to go there when it comes to listing downsides because quite frankly Huntress has the most downsides of everyone here. Not to say she doesn’t have pros because she definitely does.

And I would fully accept any evidence, if they pushed her speed to live and the kill rates went up to 90% I would be the first to call for a revert. But the simple fact is no one has a single valid point on why it shouldn’t have stayed.

News Flash any ranged killer can zone lmao. Pyramid head is the best zoner. He has much more upsides when compared to Huntress and most people rank him higher myself included.

You brought up charge times for a reason why Billy and Bubba are considered to be fine moving at 92% when charging. Bubbas is twice as long and Billy’s is 2.5 but they are both literally seconds. And 2 result in instantly downing survivor while one results in an injury. On top of 2 losing almost zero distance while one loses significant distance.

Never once said Bubba was better so stop putting words in my mouth please and thank you. And yes 20 hours on the PTB isn’t crazy so idk why you wouldn’t believe that but whatever.

I brought up all those things to prove that they have other things to help them out. You say Trickster has to land 8 knives, I bring up main event because that makes landing 8 knives a joke. Do I really need to explain everything for you and why I bring things up and how they are related?

Xenomorph loses massive amounts of distance? Even though he can teleport? Slowing down to 30% is crazy and should be changed but he doesn’t have to reload lmao.

Honestly saying slinger is too fast tells me everything I need to know lmao 😂 His movement speed is beyond fine.

Yes Huntress does have more downsides it’s pretty obvious. 110 killer, 77 when charging (slowest in the game), locker dependent, map dependent, ammo dependent, hit box of clutter on map dependent, ping dependent, accuracy dependent, large lullaby, and map wide audio cue. Not to mention her skill ceiling is far higher than any other killer mentioned. And I guess we can keep ignoring the fact she has the 5th lowest kill rate in the game at high MMR.

Meanwhile PP Head: 115 killer, 110 when charging, restricted camera movement, ping dependent.

Doesn’t have to worry about collision of objects, doesn’t have to worry about locker spawns, is not even close to as map dependent, no map wide sound for when charging an attack, map wide attack sound sounds very similar to slinger, cages of atonement ignore 20 survivor perks, no need to worry about body blocks, can score double hits, goated at tunneling, ignores flashy saves, ignores SABO plays and a basekit Mori.

Go ahead and try to tell me Pyramid head has more downsides, I’m literally dying to hear your explanation.

Sure, sure……. how often do survivors grab your banners? Especially if you use assasin for the chase?

Because unless a third survivor commit to it, i hardly ever happens.

And if a third survivor commit to it, you are effectively chasing/keeping 3 survivors busy.

All 4 of them if theres a background player or a player waiting for a save.

Which is also good in itself.

Left alone, i have seen plenty of assasins get hits on survivors, and you can work with the guard, they can chase you through a border leaving it into a great position to dawn, they can chase they away from gens. They can guard an area or prevent a rescue….

True, you cannot loop the exact same loop anymore (well you can, but then you have to get the hit quicky) but honestly those double taps were unhealthy for the game, and im telling you this as a killer main.

Its more of a rework in how the guards work than a clear buff or a clear nerf. Deep down, you know this too.

And yes the devs want the killers to be at 60%. So you saying she doesn't need to be there is of course completely wrong and biased. If the Devs say they want all killers to go to 50% I would stop asking for buffs lmao. I have Shiny Pin which is pretty solid, it should be basekit.

Honestly me and you have talked about this before for probably 100+ comments. While I always bring up stats, facts and evidence's the constantly point to her needing tweaks. Its pretty clear I cant rationalize my way past survivor bias with all my points so I give up at this point.