Nerf Wraith

Ummm, no thanks? Wraith has plenty of counter play. If you think Wraith is OP then try playing Wraith for a while. You'll probably stomp for a week or so until your MMR gets high enough but once you get into a higher MMR plenty of good survivors will teach you Wraith's weaknesses.

Wraith does not need any nerf. He is just soloQ/beginner stomper but is weak killer agains't decent survivors. I faced swf today and they sure did make sure I had terrible time map offering to ormond and they just rushed gens and played safely around pallets.

Two had backgroud players so they could run from nearby gens to do saves the first save totally caught me off the quard. They took hit at right times to other and had perfect communication everyone was already running to pallet when I get there and that map has like 100 of them still.

So wraith does not need any nerf and that was fun first game of the day for me (last part sarcasm).

Appreciate the response, but doesn't this just assume the best case scenario for the survivor where they're alert and near a defensive tile?

What about survivors out in the open on an isolated generator with no nearby pallets/windows, like on farm map?
What about survivors behind walls doing a generator (wraith can hide the uncloak), like on pretty much every other map?
What about survivors who are forced to waste a nearby pallet while doing a gen, and then are defenseless for the remaining 90 seconds at their current location?
What about a Wraith player that hits-and-runs, and never chases, therefore never having a need to anti-loop?

When I think about it, the majority of the scenarios aren't as favorable.

Wraith moves 6m/s cloaked, is completely invisible outside of a 20m range, and emits growling noises only within around ~10m range, I think? So even if you're completely alert to his presence at the earliest time that you can be, you've got about ~3 seconds to react. Meaning if you don't have a pallet or window within 12m of your location at all times, aren't you just screwed into giving a free hit thanks to the new uncloak speed?

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I've got a personal hunch that this killer is underrated due to the fact that he's, in a regular chase, a basic M1 killer. But in reality, I don't think he actually ever needs to chase anyone. Just catches you off guard, gets a free hit, leaves, rinse and repeat until your teams resources are sapped and those free hits turn into free downs.

…we're genuinely curious, are your nerf X killer posts bait or serious?

The playstyle you described is the one Wraith excels at, yes. He's bad at chases but good at getting the first hit, which meant Wraith really suffered when CoH was meta, had a big strength spike when medkits got nerfed, and then receded again when Sloppy got nerfed, because that was his preferred way of stopping heals. This predictably makes him better against solos, who have trouble healing (SWFs can call out his location and negate his main advantage anyway.) But the risk of hit and run is if they complete a heal while you're pressuring someone else, you haven't accomplished anything. Which is sustainable in a 3v1, but not a 4v1.

I mean, if the survivor's not alert when they know they're up against a stealth killer, that's their own fault and a misplay. I can still discern Wraith coming if he has silent bell and he's approaching from around a jungle gym or indoor map. Not half as far as I'd be able to discern a killer with a TR up, but I can still get a leg on to my preplanned exit strategy for that gen. I'd want to use a window before a pallet if one's available - Wraith is weaker against windows on the whole, and while you can waste a bit of time with him playing chicken on a pallet when he wants to uncloak, he can chew through them fast by forcing pallet drops, especially if he's running certain addons.

But on the other hand, a good window can stall Wraith out because while he's cloaked, he doesn't initiate chase and the vault will never be blocked, so he has to give up the first hit and chase normally or go away and find someone else.

If there's no resources around the gen or it's out in the open a la Coldwind or Ormond or Haddonfield, yes, I'm screwed. I'd be screwed against most teleport, mobility, or stealth killers in that situation, though; it's not much different from Xeno crawling out of a tunnel behind me or Billy crossmapping in where I hear his TR three seconds before he's in my face. Wraith's big advantage over everyone else is countering holding W - whether you see him coming or not, you need to take him to a tile. Maps where you don't have resources to hold him off are imo more indicative of a flaw in map design than the killer himself (ex Haddonfield that's one giant deadzone, the Game where once you use pallets the map has no permanent resources, Midwich where holding W is all you have on top of some weak loops.)

I don't think Wraith is as weak as he gets written off as, I think a good deal of that is a holdover impression from a few years ago, but I boggle at the idea of giving him a nerf.

revert his base windstorm and extra post cloak soles tbh most fun I had on killer during that time in ages

Lightburn alone would send him to D tier.

So, no, he doesn't need nerfs.

to thos esaying Wraith is "just an M1 killer". - Iirc Hens did a showdown; a Wraith (good Wraith but not a comp player) against some of the best survivors. Wraith did exactly the hit n run thing where he just never commits to a chase and focuses on pushing people of gens and getting resources out of the way. It was a rather long match, iirc, but in the end he won … and it wasn't exactly close.

All map reworks make maps smaller and resources more scarce indirectly making Wraith better and better. - Or let's say: the aforementioned playstyle.

And yes; not opting for that or another obnoxious playstyle makes him rather weak. - Would buffing him do anything to encourage other playstyles? I highly doubt it; whenever something to encourage a different playstyle is introduced it just leads to the existing one getting even worse.

My guy, I think you just had a rough game. Any killer can feel oppressive in the right hands, but Wraith is genuinely in a perfect spot right now. Sure he can be annoying, but again, so can any killer.