2v8 points out a glaring issue

Bottom line is it's an awful mode for survivors, with limited play options and only there to provide an experience for killers. Hence why there's a huge bonus for survivors...welcome to grinding them bloodpoints. Playing as killer was fun of course. May as well allow survivor bots because it's the only way this mode survives.

Seems like a subjective 2vs8 experience. I played about 10 games on both sides and havent really experienced slugging, camping ir tunneling. Judging from most posts on this forum and the amount of upvotes they get over the ones saying the mode sucks I would say urs is a very subjective experience and you shouldn't project that on other people games by saying the mode is unbalanced or a sluggfest.

If the 10 games you played on survivor were from the first day of the event, you're proving my point. I played 10 games yesterday, and all 10 had slugging killers at 3 survivors left. Killers have learned either through common sense or content creators that slugging will help achieve 8ks. A strategy that came about since the event went live.

I agree with you that 2v8 is a subjective experience, which was the whole point of my post. What's not subjective is actual data points and trends from the beginning of the event to now.

I've played my 10 games yesterday and have only once experienced a killer duo that slugged a bit more. So no proof there I guess.

Also to my knowledge there isn't a graph that shows the average slugging time or survivors in this mode.

I have escaped every single match as a survivor. Some matches were close some matches all 8 escaped. This mode just proves how bad survivors have become without their "comfort" perks. Also 8 survivors and i still see matches where only 2 does gens..what are the rest of you doing? Also i think this mode has no MMR. I see new players mixed with experienced ones all the time, same with killer side.

Killer side is actually hard unless both carries their weight. Its normal to lose 3-4 gens before you even have few hooks. I think the balance is more towards survivors if they would only do gens! I have been enjoying playing killer a lot with a teammate and learning to play nurse.

If you aren't enjoying this mode there is always the normal mode with the same old 4-6 perks :)

Telling someone who is upset about their experience "if you're not happy, then be happy for the people who are" is dismissive and does not achieve any sort of positivity that you're imagining will happen.

Wanting to win is by definition being competitive against the competition. I never claimed that was a bad thing. All I said was saying this mode isn't competetive is just flat out wrong because the players have turned it competetive.

You are allowed to complain about the mode or the tome quests if you have problems with them. Saying "just don't do them" in a dismissive fashion because the remarks aren't positive enough for you isn't helping bring about a more positive atmosphere.

The problem you are having isn't because of overpowered killers. It's because even in 1v4 a single weak link can be used to dismantle a team. In 2v8 what are your ads of actually getting a good team? And from what I've seen alot more killers are taking there matches seriously compared to survivors.

I did never say that the mode is not competetive at all.

I had a few experiences, where someone got joy out of others happiness. If you never experienced that, then im sorry for you. Its a great feeling and experience.

Of course someone is allowed to complain about anything. I complain about a lot of things in dbd. However, I do have my reasons for complaining. May I ask what the alternative to the event tome is? No tome? Therefore no additional content? Is that good? OP wants the tome quests to be gone. What about the people that do like to do them? This game is not single player. The devs will not change something out of a single person feeling entitled to change the game. Many people had to learn that the hard way. Constructive criticism goes a long way and can achieve a lot.

Sadly the criticism of OP is not constructive at all.

I repeat: if someone doesnt enjoy something, they should reconsider doing it. Especially when its about a video game. Leasure time activity you know?

So let me give you this example: you're waiting in line to buy something at the store for an hour, the line is going slow. For whatever reason someone cuts ahead of you in line and saves an hour of waiting. By your logic, you should feel happy for them because they're happy they didn't have to wait for that whole hour that you did. Do you see how illogical that sounds? There's a difference in feeling happy for someone because you gave them a birthday gift they liked versus someone else getting enjoyment at the sake of your own.

In regards to the tome, how about a tome with challenges that don't require you to play a game mode? And if the tome is an incentive to play the new mode, which this one is, why not make it so most challenges can be done during the course of normal gameplay of one match. The first survivor tome challenge was unhooking 4 survivors. Guess what every survivor was doing the first two days of the event? Unhooking. Guess what they weren't doing? Gens. So not only is it artificially harder to get 4 unhooks because everyone is going for them, killers are winning with like 6 gens remaining because everyone is hovering saves instead of playing normally. The OP doesn't want the tome to be gone, they don't want to feel like they are missing out on rewards because the tome would make them play in a mode they do not find fun. Tomes should not invoke FOMO tactics. Having a battle pass with rewards that vanish indefinitely when they are over is already enough of that. No need to slap another layer of FOMO on top of that.

Your opinion on whether or not OP's criticism is constructive or not is dismissive and does not promote the positive environment you wish to achieve.

Please stop hiding behind the "if you don't like it, don't do it" scapegoat that you keep touting about. It comes of as completely sanctimonious and is again extremely dismissive. Wanting to enjoy the game you paid for and having valid criticism for changes made to the game and not eating broccoli because you don't like the taste are completely different.

It's really not op for killers, it's because for years lots of survivors have spent a long time looping so it's all they know. Don't need perks or items to loop so other temp game modes like random perks means people can still loop. But 2 v 8 has has pretty much removed looping and now survivors are like "what do we do now??" So they don't have fun, they don't play the mode hence long waiting times for killers. But the survivors that know more than 1 way to play seem to be doing fine against 2 killers.

And once again as I have seen in other threads, blaming the killers for not saying it's killer sided and suggesting it's the killers fault if the mode fails. Imo it's the survivors that refuse to drop the whole "loop for life" mindset and wont adapt to a new way to play is what will be the downfall of the mode.

She probably predicted where you’d go. A good fail safe is running into her

I dont think you get it. Its as simple as giving a gift. People get a new game mode. They enjoy it. Im happy for them. Im not even playing dbd that much right now because of a lot of work. Im happy for all those killer players that have the time to finally play with a friend. You doont havw to see something mean in everything anybody says ok?

Changing tome challenges is one thing. OP did not mention that. If they did, please show me that. Im willing to go back on my previous statement if that is the case. Im all against fomo. Sadly it seems to be part of live service games at this point. I dont know how new you are in these forums but fomo has been a hot topic for a long time.

"Your opinion on whether or not OP's criticism is constructive or not is dismissive and does not promote the positive environment you wish to achieve."

• This makes no sense. If everybody just complains without proposing on how to change something, noboody is getting anywhere. Constructive criticism creates a healthy discussion. Complaining without tyring to find a solution does not and does indeed create a more negative environment. Been in these forums long enough to know that.

Im not hiding. Never was. Whats the valid criticism then? Killa op? Thats valid ciriticism?

Valid criticism would be to say, that survivor in 2v8 is not as enjoyable due to the mode feeling pretty similar to the base game. Killer feels a lot more fun due to the role finally being able to be played in coop. Therefore in a future iteration, the survivor role should have more options for different gameplay. This would maybe improve queue times. How could this be done? Maybe killer powers could get a tweak and/or new objectives for survivors could be established and/or more roles could be introduced.

I’m sad to see things like tunelling and slugging have crept their way back into the game so quickly. Although I’m not surprised - it does highlight it as the preferred way to play for killers regardless of how you change the game though.

I don't want op killers at all lol I simply don't think killers are op in 2 v 8 based on what I seen and experienced on both sides. I don't loop as a survivor and I win huge proportions of my matches as a survivor. This is because I can adapt to more than 1 play style. I wouldn't say I'm particularly good at the game so if I can win against 2 killers then I don't see why others can't other than the fact they spend most 1 v 4 matches looping whereas I don't.

I have basis for my argument of not thinking killers are op

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