Is DBD still fun for you?

guarantee and balance what?

you're playing the team based game with random matchmaking. i dont understand how do you expect this inherent flaw of random matchmaking to ever disappear.

you'll always have bad teammates, people who dont play to win, people who're bad at the game. that's normal, that's the nature of any team based game.

balancing the game around the idea that survivors are severely underperforming while killer is not is a ludicrous mindset to have because you're essentially asking to kill the game for any decently skilled people.

and punishing people for playing with friends is just as dumb and insane. you know what would happen if you'll penalize survivors for playing premades? they'll play solo q matchmaking and will try to get in the same lobby to bypass the unnecessary penalty.

I play both and killer is definitely the easiest it's ever been. I'm an okay killer and I do lose once in a while, but most of my games are 3 or 4 games by a large percentage.

You're point is clear, I generally agree with you, but it's a conversation that has come up on the forums a lot.

No. Tunneling once you realize you're already losing, it's way too late at that point. You just lose anyway. Bad survivors can throw just about anything if they choose to though.

And I'm assuming that's the caliber you're basing all this off of. Like they never have the thought to punish camping by doing gens. Or are you suggesting that because 1 survivor gets guaranteed camped to death in certain hyper specific situations (just Myers and Leatherface), all camping is OP unfair? Idk at this point. But I'm tired of seeing this; there's no diversity of thought on these topics at all. You either have the right opinion, or "Wrong cuz killah biased."

im not sure what's the point of you saying that, but I really hope you don't think this is a good idea or approach to solving the disbalance, let alone an actual working solution to this issue one way or the other.

Killers have their struggles, but the primary one nobody wants to address is skill. Skilled killers always have, and always will be, successful. BHVR making nerfs to survivor because of a lack of skill from killers was the issue. At first it was adding perks like Lethal Pursuer and Pain Res to give killers huge objective rewards for very little effort (Pain Res) or none at all (Lethal pursuer). Slowly after that it was bloating the game with killers with insane powers to make even the worst of killer players feel like they're top tier. At least Nurse and Blight require some skill to be even remotely decent.

Looking at killers like Vecna and Dracula, they have so many abilities with so little punishment for bad plays. And in the case of Dracula, is basically 3 different killers in one with zero drawbacks. Pyramid Head, Sadako/Freddy (teleporting), and Wesker. Why is this necessary? And every killer is anti-loop nowadays, but the devs dont want to remove or severely nerf other abilities or perks to compensate.

Vecna has map traversal, anti-loop, and detection abilities. Vecna can add gen regression and aura perks to make a killer with almost zero flaws.

Every new killer is just remake Freddy over and over again and its so boring. The trial is supposed to be a trial for both the survivors and the killer. Doesnt seem to mean much on the killer side when you're spoonfed wins.

This is why I enjoyed 2v8. It was great to go back to a time in DBD before all of this. When skill and efficiency mattered. In the main game? Its $$$. Just buy the newest killer with its perks and with all the map changes and adjustments that favored killer over the years you're almost guaranteed a 4k every round.

Chatwheel with preset messages would be optimal, but voice chat is simply more flexible.

Thay laughable u call a perk a counter of someing a killer can do base kit on anyone perk shouldnever need to be a counter for BK straps perk should be used to counter perks not brain dead game play on killer

Both sides are fun for me, and I play Pig and soloq.

The game goes from frustrating to fun, but overall it's fun.

1. Pallets and perks aren't your only tools. Your mind, as in mind-game, is an important part of your tool-set. You seldom stand a chance against some killers if you only count on pallets and a few good perks. Granted, it appears many players are so used to the plethora of second-chance perks they never learn how to actually play.
2. I disagree. I've almost never used "meta" perks and my builds are still as efficient and fun (unless the killer has a counter perk, but they mostly don't). I still get a lot of fun when I manage to escape a killer mid-chase, hiding in plain sight.
3. Unless you've missed it, killers also have cool-downs on their better perks and powers. Apparently, you also fail to realize you are a team of four. That's sixteen perks against the killer. This is not 1vs1: it's 1vs4. (And, 3 times faster that survs? What do you even mean?)
4. There are plenty of decent anti-tunneling perks. Earlier today a killer was complaining about it because he did want to tunnel and never could. Both complaints are wrong.
5. My teams have long stopped playing the game, the first one because their favorite killer was nerfed (first Billy nerf), the second one because they got tired of the game. Being the only one left, I mostly play survivor in solo-Q. It's not as fun but it's not nearly as bad as may state. I never DC nor give-up though: that'd be a sure way to be in MMR hell.
6. When I play survivor, I do my best to get as many survivors out: with, or without me. DS is still decent (but many don't realize they have to carefully chose where to go down) DH is still good (especially against killers like Nurse). Right now I'm more on Overcome.

If you think killer is more fun, just play that side. Let's see how far you can go before complaining about survivors.

I quit the game. I'm done of every match: Nurse / Billy / Wesker, with my mmr i'm only getting these 3 boring killers. BHVR should nerf Billy AGAIN and REWORK Nurse entirely. M1 killers needs to be buffed, there's months I dont face a Pig or another M1

If matchmaking is working well then yes but if not no. Overall every day I play dbd it's a coin flip either or not I'm going to have a good time. I removed that whole see it has competitive aspects but with the fact toxic players love pushing my buttons every single match or matchmaking being really weird it's hard for me to enjoy it would I have uninstalled the game? Sure if all the money I spent on it went back to me but overall I see dbd just has the game you hate but you still go back to it. Heck I've started playing other games some even multi-player and noticed I have way more fun with that because I'm less mad. Played COD not to long ago and even then you got some toxic players but I still had a fun time.

Been playing since 2017 and having more fun than ever on both sides.