Huntress feels too strong right now

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To be generous I count 30 out of 53 maps being garbage for her between indoor maps and clutter. I would argue more like 37 to be accurate but those maps are kinda iffy.

And Scott also exactly explained why he switched to maining Wraith and it’s because “The Devs are obsessed with adding random garbage to every map that makes playing her exhausting”

Which after they added the variations to Ormond, Yamaoka and cold wind. AND the rework for Midwhich that ruined the one indoor map she was alright on. I definitely understand why he gave up on her.

Umbra another huge ex-huntress streamer also quit playing her for similar reasons.

She said that nowadays huntress gameplay mostly boils down to pallet showdowns since most new or reworked maps hardly allow for long or even cross map shots. Just having each match be multiple pallet showdons is boring and frustrating for both sides according to her.

From my own experience as a semi-huntress main I can see where she is coming from. Even though I don't really see how these buff help her with these issues since it seems to be more of a map Design problem than a killer problem. The new map Designs feel a lot like aestetics over playability for many killers imo

Yeah that is probably more accurate than what I said and a better way to view it.

huntress strong but overrated. Even with the buffs she isn't oppressive at all in my opinion.

I think a lot of people are sick of Huntress from playing against her every single match in 2v8. Did see a lot of people instantly dc when going against her in the normal mode at first but that seems to have settled down now.

I haven't played as her in months but there does seem to be a build where she can fire off hatchets extremely quickly with very little cool down. I think they recently changed a few of her add ons so probably one of them?

It all started with Ghostface being added unfortunately. They added a bunch of garbage for his lean stalking ability. That’s also speculated to be why Sverkeran who was one of the greatest of all time at her gave up on her and quit playing the game, that and dedicated servers.

The buffs don’t help her at all with the map issue, that’s what the movement speed when holding hatchets was for. They were trying to make Shiny Pin basekit to help her on awful maps but survivor backlash got that reverted. No watching the kill rates or anything just straight reverted because complaints made by people who didn’t play against her buffed PTB version at all.

People say it wasn’t needed and it’s a map issue but that’s why I say it was needed. They aren’t going to rework all maps. They aren’t going to change the indoor maps that gut her power either. So speeding her up was the simple solution and the most needed part and it didn’t make it past the PTB because people didn’t even want to try and see how it felt to go against. But oh well, what can you do?

This is blatantly incorrect, she does NOT have increased speed when holding a hatchet. It never made it past the PTB, even though it should have.

She is still 77% when holding a hatchet, MEANWHILE. Billy and Cannibal move at 92% when charging. Trickster moves at 96% when holding knives (99% when using two add ons together), Slinger moves at 92% when Add and PP head moves at 110% when using PoTD.

A survivor moves 23% faster when she holds a hatchet, not to mention of all the killers listed besides Trickster (who they made 115% while she is 110%) She is the only one who has to drop chase and find a poorly placed locker to reload. 7 hatchets is beyond reasonable, at a certain point you have to accept some responsibility and learn how to loop her. She is one of the easiest to loop in the game, watch any survivor mains video on countering her, it’s abysmally easy.

To be fair, I believe they reverted the change where she could have faster movement when moving with a readied up hatchet.

That was due to no counterplay as she's supposed to lose speed when drawing her hatchet, but I do think she need a speed boost for hatchet wind-up speed as I played her prior to her nerf.

The hatchets amount was added due to Infantry Belt being a popular add-on, which Behavior believed she needed as an add-on built in.

I think the only thing I could think of changing about her is her hatchet hitbox - I would argue that Deathslinger and Trickster are harder to master due to how precision based their hits need to be, whereas Huntress has more leeway to hit her shots in otherwise due to the bad hitbox size or latency related.

Ive never seen anyone on these forums for 6 years asking for buffs like these, and you dont need to play a killer religiously to know what kind of changes are good/bad.

Huntress being at the bottom in terms of killrates make sense considering you actually need to be sentient to play her properly, and using comp as an example really aint a good one considering some times they dont play for the 4k since its all about points. Huntress is good at camping, which makes her very good at safely securing points.

Also Huntress being "one of the easiest killers to loop in the game" hasnt been the case in years, (could even argue her chase ability was just as good back when she was first released thanks to there only being 1 indoor map and maps being a lot more open than they are now) saying otherwise is just a skill issue.

I agree with this as well.

I don't believe she's overpowered - maybe overtuned but at the same time her buffs were not warranted and anyone struggling with her I'll just say skill issue.

That being said I guess she is kind of fine now it only really helped people struggling with her I guess as people who are decent with her while they'll feel the changes it largely won't affect their games aside from possibly a few less trips to a locker.

You made the assumption first by claiming “skill issue” I simply made my assumption off of your comment you made that tells me that you dont have much experience on her compared to people who play her more.

Bringing up MMR is not pointless at all and can not be written off as such as it does matter if good players who have thousands of hours still struggle to kill with her. She is a well balanced killer in some regards but lacking very heavily in others.

People who have thousands of hours on her alone are disagreeing with you so maybe you should think about what they say instead of dismissing it instantly as a “skill issue”

For some reason they thought it was a good idea to give her an entire 4 peoples worth of hatchets.

The windup and speed changes I dont care but why does she need 7 basekit hatchets… its silly as hell. You can afford to be the worst aim in the world now.

This is on par with billy changes, we just wanted overheat gone, now we have the blue I win overdrive button. Skill expression is being taken away constantly on the killer side. I dont want them screwing with my plague, or legion like this.

Whats next, I can just get stunned and have my power still up and both powers doubling in duration?

Im not talking about double wind up, Im talking about green charge and yellow recovery.

At a short distance if you hit back to back hatchets, you can down almost as fast as double charge + tink

A bit overturned but changes were still needed. Them being Huntress mains is irrelevant if you are implying bias, many people can set their bias aside. And honestly you should be going to a main of said character if you want to know how they feel and if any changes should happen.

37 of 53 maps are awful for her. Even worse if you aren’t using Shiny Pin which is borderline a must run against good survivors. She has the most amount of maps that are bad for her on top of being 1 of 2 killers who have to go reload at a poorly placed locker.

Look why people gave up on her, Scott Jund did, Sverkeran did and they were some of the best. And it’s because her kit and poorly designed maps. 7 hatchets is beyond fine as it helps new people more when it comes to learning her. Hatchets are not hard to dodge. Watch Coco and spooky play matches they miss a decent amount and Otzdarava misses even more than them.

I’m digressing at this point but my point still stands, the buffs were absolutely needed and anybody who plays her a lot realized this. Maybe those CCs felt it was overturned but they never said they were unneeded. The buff she needed the most didn’t even make it through.

The real problem is that against people who are bad at the game she is S Tier but against people who are good she is B Tier. Ohtofu said that best in his most recent tier list video and it’s undeniable how accurate he is about that.

People crying about her buffs again, and clearly exaggerating her hatchet hitboxes and her power level. If her opponents are smart enough to breath, they can probably beat her. That's especially true at the higher levels matches where you can down pretty much constantly and still draw or lose. Lots of maps in the game straight-up aren't designed for her, because you can't see over, or you can but your hatchets just blow up into black smoke when you try to throw over. Or there's no lockers for miles. Don't you think that's why they gave her a bigger hatchet count?