Can we stop making the game free on EGS?

I remember they said that to add replays they would need to redo the entire game, but some of my friends who are close to the gamedev said that it is absolutely not difficult and one plugin is enough to add replays to any UE game. I think it's just way to expensive to support this function.

Too late for that unfortunately, people stockpiled a solid few thousand accounts to cheat on from when the game was free on EGS. I personally wouldn't mind if the DBD base game was made more expensive, but also inluded some more of the older characters by default. DBD is in demand enough that it doesn't need to cost 5$ on Steam to get new players, all it does is make it cheaper for cheaters to get new accounts. Then there's game pass too which is another easy way to get an account to cheat on.

I really wish that this game had proper anti cheat from the start but when you look at the origins it had as a Peer To Peer based game where your save was managed almost entirely locally on your computer, it makes sense that the anti cheat isn't any good.

This game should have never became free on Epic tbh.

the issue is that removing a specific copy of the game is not going to be enough to stop cheating. if you want there to be no cheaters, then you may as well not have a game at all. if it exists, its hackable.

there's really no easy way to mitigate that though, that's the issue. even if you took away the person's ability to make a new account, they'd spoof their way into making a new one or continuing to buy accounts off of people. you cant prevent someone from making a new user account, you can't prevent someone from buying a game, and you can't really stop people sharing their credentials to allow others to play. they will find a way around it.

i'm not saying that nothing can be done, as there are some options and i do agree that changes need to be made, but the reality is that the gaming industry is plagued with cheaters and there's no real true way to remedy the issue when it comes to live service games specifically. with the amount of tools out there as well, you can only slow it down so much before it bleeds into what steps need to be taken by the end user, and at that point it can become oppressive to your regular playerbase. COD, GTA, forza horizon, and other major titles still suffer from these issues to this day.

it also doesn't help that DBD has become boring or unpleasant to a lot of people, so there's a major incentive to do things to the game that people otherwise wouldnt or is beyond the game's scope. this is the nature of today's gaming climate.

people have fun in their own ways when something gets boring and unfortunately that comes at the expense of others. and even if you somehow manage to make the gameplay more engaging, eventually that gets boring too. it's all a cycle. 😔

Okay but making doing all of that even easier than usual is still bad and it should stop being enabled so much. This isn't about fixing all cheating, this is about not doing things that make cheating way easier for cheaters to do.

You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. No it's not a perfect end-all solution to every problem ever. Nothing is. Pointing out "but it doesn't fix everything forever" contributes nothing, it's just deflection.

They are not even getting new accounts from Epic anymore, according to a hacker interviewed by Choy.

EDIT: Seems like mods don't like Choy videos, so look it up in Youtube.

So, the solution is not removing a copy from the game on any platform. The best solution is for BHVR to fix their account system (and I'm going to guess that the BHVR account is the first step) and start doing software detection, as the hacker said himself.

Also, you have to take into account that someone paying 18 bucks a week to cheat in a videogame won't have too much problem paying 20 for the game again whenever he is banned. Because yes, they are paying for it. Sad, I know.

The game was free one time on EGS only. AFAIK, it was never free again. Also, you were responding to a conversation about pulling out the game completely from EGS (that I have to say, if they are going to give an Steam copy in exchange, I'm all about it).

i don't think i'm 'arguing for the sake of arguing', im merely contributing my thoughts to a discussion and i thought your post was an interesting talking point. i believe that no matter what system is implemented, cheating will continue to be a major issue even with the difficulties implemented. such is the nature of technology and those who choose to either use or abuse it. bad actors are everywhere and no amount of restrictions will fix that. the best thing that players can do at this point is to simply just report these people when they see them to slow them down and force them to buy copies over and over again.

it's an arms race against cheating and modding. it's not the end-all-be-all, of course, but this is something that has to be accepted as part of this age of gaming and technology. it sucks, but sadly people will do what they want and will do anything to get it done as i said.

I'm sorry, but something has to give to get rid of the cheating problem. If Epic is where all the roads point, it's clearly an issue with Epic.