BHVR are you serious about matchmaking or is the game full killer sided now?

When playing in a SWF the member with the hightest MMR is used for match making. You state 1k hours, how about your teammates?

That part makes sense. However, there are major issues with Survivor right now. From my experience my escape rate when playing solo has gone down drastically while, even though BHVR brings in incentives with different perks to not tunnel or slug for the 4K, the incidence of such behaviours have really gone up.

I've been playing 60/40 Killer/Survivor for years so the question is what has changed so significantly. Comparing my games from years ago to now the quality of games on the survivor side has diminished significantly.

Assuming it's a skill issue would be dismissing those concerns. Asking for game play is, of course valid, but after dozens of games MMR should settle at an area where it's enjoyable. If it was enjoyable before during MMR but it's not now then something has changed. What it is I can't say but, when survivors complain about their experience, they could have some very legitimate concerns. And, after 18 games, I would understand the frustration in having a 5.5% escape rate (4 survivors escaped out a potential 72 escapes).

It could be the matchmaking system as well but there's no way a functional MMR would produce that low of a result.

First of all: stats shows that the escape rate of 4 men SWF is less than 50%… So no the game it isn't surv sided, not anymore. Still that loss streak is strange… How many hours do you and your friends have?

If he's in a 4stack then dcs aren't a concern

He did come off like that but he's frustrated. I'm just extending the benefit of the doubt because he mentioned matchmaking as the first possibility. That's what I think is the issue here.

I mean they balance around a 60% kill rate, the game definitionally is Killer-sided. That being said, I think OP's issue is recently reaching the topcap of MMR, or playing with really bad friends.

I tried playing with a newer friend, and found it equally impossible. The Killer too easily could massage that weak link for free wins, and my friend is still ratting in lockers randomly. I can't help them learn quick enough for them to deal with actual Killers playing normally. They need to practice against similar level baby Killers.

Alternatively any player recently reaching the topcap is going to be in a bad situation if they don't want to actually spend more time to learn how to play. In a normal match, the Killer would be 50, and the Survivors 40/45/55/60. That means each Surv is taking turns being the best and worst in the lobby. Once they reach the topcap, the best case for Survivor is the Killer is 75, but far more likely is the Killer will be better than them. They can no longer occasionally be the best player in the lobby (and most commonly are the worst player in the lobby) until they bring themselves up to at least 85ish.

For both problems combined, SWFs use the highest player's MMR. That means if you play with a 75/50/50/25, the matchmaking treats you all as 75s. To make things even worse, when playing in a SWF, you get artificially inflated MMR gains, and deflated losses. That means if you have a single person at the topcap in your SWF, you will take even longer to drop below the topcap than the normal loss prevention to drop below it, so it takes these 10+ losses before you even dent the 75 down to 74. If they get a win, they go right back up to 75-80, and have to lose another 10 games before they get another 'playable' match.

Basically SWF MMR adjustments are the largest problem, and an equally large problem (that also ruins Killer experiences) is the topcap loss prevention. Allow people to naturally drop MMR when they lose, and they will get playable matches again.

Ehh still isn't that good of a killer. Only marginally better than base myers.

You're absolutely right about all this mizark and yeah, the game by definition is supposed to be Killer-sided. The Killer has to be a threat, so a 60% Kill Rate is feasible. This doesn't, of course, mean you're getting a 60% Success Rate.

If you try to pursue winstreak after winstreak, you will eventually hit the MMR cap and then, you will be stuck and suffer until you lose a whole lot of rounds. This is true for both Survivor and Killer. But since Killer is a bit easier to control a round with played well, Killer is easier to hit th cap with faster. I think we should make MMR gains and losses be similar.

Before it died, there were several rounds where Ghostface was featured in Outrun The Fog, Brimp. Your statement is simply incorrect that Ghostface has never been used in Comp, he's considered a Low Tier comp Killer. MYERS, however, is never actually used in Comp. Ghostface definitely is and a simple Youtube search would show you plenty of footage of people like Team Eternal even playing him in comp rounds.

But you clearly don't play Ghostface or think this Killer is worth anything to the game, you seem to only care if the Killer can dominate in a 4k every single round. So please kindly do not speak about Killers you do not play. :) I am glad Blight is treating you well.

One archetype of maps… everything else he just loses.