So What type of pinhead changes are y'all hoping for?

there is also fact that when pinhead is using his gateway, his m/s for whatever reason is slowed to 90% similar how when nurse has fully charged blink, her m/s is slowed down. it is like old clown pink bottle problem where holding your m2 would make you lose distance. it is bad because say a survivor pre-drop a pallet, you can't use your chains around a circular loop because as you channel gateway, the survivor gaining distance for just running forward in the loop compared to you.

the Iridescent Lament Configuration, After making impaling wire basekit, this would become the new "always run this" addon.

It is already must use add-on. his chain hunt is terrible without it.

I already wrote a post in feedback section for what I think would be good changes for pinhead. the summary of changes was to weaken chain-hunt and improve consistency of his regular chain power.

You nailed it, pun not intended. OK maybe a little intended.

I think Pinhead is mostly fine but yes, his chains are very weak. He should be more of a fun chase Killer, not just a slowdown Killer. I also think the chains are unnecessarily hard to use sometimes and finicky. They are fine when launched, it's more that the setup, turning, and launching feels a bit clunky and slow. He should be snappier. If anyone could use an autoaim feature that homes in on Survs, it's Pinhead. They should also have a stronger hinder so he can actually use them to catch up, and I feel like there's no reason he should be able to break his own extradimensional chains by walking through them when his vault animation isn't even a vault. I don't see the point in punishing the Killer for using his power like this.

You got it on the Box too. I do think having the Box on you as Survivor should be way way way more of a deficit, because it's way too easy to take the Box hostage and mess with Pinhead this way. You should never be able to continuously lock the Killer out of any part of their power, and it's far easier for Survivors to do this to deny Chain Hunt indefinitely than anything else. It's also obnoxiously hard to find when you're trying to look for it making it a massive liability to an M1 Killer with weak M2 to hunt down, and making it really frustrating to find for Survivors especially SoloQ if he's running Iri Box. Make the Box easier for Pinhead to find and solve when he's close by, maybe give it a slight aura reveal within 8 meters of it? And maybe make chain hunt harder to play around by hiding the Box's aura before a certain threshold, or make it harder to stop by making people carrying the Box hindered or exhausted basekit, or reveal their auras briefly to Pinhead for a second. Something so that holding the Box is actually detrimental, though necessary.

This is a Killer based around pain and being painful to deal with. But also pleasure. Make it a pleasure to have fun trying to dodge his chains by rewarding Survs who manage to "toro" it around loops, but also a pleasure to the player to successfully hit with them correctly. Then make the Box more painful to Survivors who try to use it for their benefit, but less painful for Pinhead to find.

And I agree: Impaling Wire basekit, and maybe an addon pass. Who even USES the maggot and cricket addons?

I frankly hope they don't nerf the reduction to 90% to much, since that's what make him get punished for misses and feel better to play against than clown. I think the better way to go would be to buff his m/s slowdown and add impaling wire basekit.

Anything that's not a nerf. Undoing all his add-on nerfs could be a start.

At this point I would be fine with the devs gutting the box/chain hunt if it meant the chains that I aim and shoot weren’t so weak and easy to break. Certain addons being basekit would be great, but I would cry actual tears of joy if Pinhead stopped breaking his own chains.

Lame. It's an interesting addon but the only times I've ever ever seen it as a survivor is against Pinheads that are super glued to hook. It definitely belongs somewhere in the patch notes.

no, the add-on is called original pain. it makes so that whenever you chain someone, they are deep wounded allow you to m1 and go through borrow time.

yeah I’ve had pinhead players do this and it’s essentially uncounterable

No idea why he needs any changes to begin with

Engineer’s Fang inflicts damage/takes a health state if you hit a survivor with the possessed chain. Do you play Pinhead..?

simple . Buffs to his m2 making the chain less rng and the actuall slowdown you get on a chain hit more conssistent. Perhaps buffs to his turn rate add ons and a few other . The one nerf or change i could see is making survivors auras visible when within 16m of the box. This would help lessen the confusion the box may cause in solo queue. PH is almost a perfect killer so i hope they don't change him too much.

I dont think showing survivor auras within 16m of the box would help because the issue is when multiple uncoordinated survivors drop their tasks to cross the map to fetch the box. or assume someone else would do that and leave it unattended.

IMO there's nothing that can be really done about the box except just hoping solo q people learn enough gamesense to utilize UI to figure when they should be the ones to commit to the box.

I agree with you and the person you quoted, the Box puts him too far away when he teleports and gives Survivors too much head start. Plus again, it can be used to take him kinda hostage, or create situations where Survivors control his power, not him controlling it. It's his Box, he should be able to use it to his advantage more.