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10-15% Base Kit Vault Speed For All Killers When?

CammyChameleon
CammyChameleon Member Posts: 265
in Feedback and Suggestions

I was just thinking about this the other day, and when they did the base 10% cooldowns and animations a while back for killers, they never touched vault speeds? There are so many niche builds and killers that require perks like bamboozle simply because of how strong some windows are, and I think having a 10-15% base kit vault speed would feel so much better.

Comments

  • CleanseThis
    CleanseThis Member Posts: 175

    I can get on board with that. Bubba without bamboozle is a nerf.

  • GonnaBlameTheMovies
    GonnaBlameTheMovies Member Posts: 682

    I think this would be a healthy enough change, Killers and Survivors should vault the same speed. If anything Killers should have a slightly faster vault speed. Not much, like 5% faster, but it shouldn't be yet another tool to waste Killer time - time Killers are slowly less and less able to have when BHVR is adding more generator perks and speed buffs for Survivors.

    Survivors should be weakest in an individual 1v1 and stronger together. Chase should be dangerous.

  • mizark3
    mizark3 Member Posts: 2,253

    As a frequent Bamboozle user, I'm not fully sure this is a good basekit change. A lot of windows actually have the breakpoint reached by the boost here (Fire Up 2-3 stacks, as well as Bamboozle, if you mindgame it properly). If you want to improve the speed of the game entirely, and increase all player vaults speeds by 15% then I'd be fine with that, but only Killer 15% is too much atm. Its the breakpoints that make this the case, if the breakpoints were different, then maybe.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,112
    edited September 16

    vaulting speed for killer like 6 years ago was like 30% slower. they already did buff vaulting speed.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3800942#Comment_3800942

    i don't see them improving vaulting speed because it would discourage survivors from using windows. the break-point for survivors gaining no distance from window vaults is 50%. Myer's has this if he uses bamboozle, T3 and dark arrogance. the break-point to zone a window vault where if survivor is within <5 meters of window vault is 25%.

    this is that classic mindgame where a killer pretends to left, then goes right, then vaults the window. you see this a lot on long-wall jungle gyms and shack window when killer is in shack. with bamboozle, you can sometimes get hits and a lot of killer use bamboozle specific for that mindgame. without the perk, the survivor still has enough time to make to the pallet.

  • Paternalpark
    Paternalpark Member Posts: 663

    Also make it so you can pallet stun survivors.

  • mizark3
    mizark3 Member Posts: 2,253
    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3800960#Comment_3800960

    Exactly, D→A→Spacebar wins nearly every window with Bamboozle alone.

  • Langweilg
    Langweilg Member Posts: 1,475

    Then killers have to be slower. Windows are the only way with pallets to make distance between you and the killer.

    They would also have to massively buff maps to compensate.