Well... I think It's now or never.
I'm talking about mori system. The initial idea was scrapped before. Now it's time to commit.
I was always agree with the idea of making the mori - base-kit mechanic for killers without bringing the offering. It was scrapped before because it received a very bad… Reactions… But it was used as well as other mechanics such as "last standing" and "anti-slug for 4k".
Now - Please commit to it, dear developers. The coolest animation being gated by the offering is have to go.
Edit: I just hope mori isn't automated again after downing the last survivor (The initial\first idea). Coz I really like the idea of carrying the last survivor to the hatch once in a while.
Update: I created a suggestion on PTB feedback about mori system:
Please let me and developers know what you think and feel like about new mori system.
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Moris appearing in every match regardless of offering is great. I love the idea. We need to see more moris.
However, I can't support removing moris from the match when survivors can actually interact with them. I do not like the idea of making moris only possible once everyone is dead. People goofing off remains my favorite part of this game and moris were always an avenue for this. Whether that's people diving in for Ghostface selfies, forming a ritual ring around Pinhead sending someone to Brazil, slapping Myers' ass, stealing Trickster's autograph card, or someone playing me a song on the world's tiniest Bardic Inspiration while I'm chopped into pieces, nothing makes mori-ing or getting moried more fun for me than another player running in to photobomb the brief invulnerability period the cinematic provides them, and I don't want to lose that.
I don't know why we can't have the finisher mori and just leave ebony/ivory mori offerings alone.
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No thanks. It's basically an end to Mori-Bombing and that's unacceptable
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Devour Hope and Rancor still have their Mori abilities intact.
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That happens very rarely, to be fair, and there are other ways to mori someone with other survivors still in the trial (e.g. Rancor, Devour Hope, Myers' add-ons) so it won't go extinct either.
Edit: Jinx!
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Moris should be base-kit. Ain't no other way, brother. Bringing the offering just feels unnatural (I know it sounds stupid).
As much as I hate that survivors will not be able to goof around the killer while they are using mori on someone… I just can't sympathize with offerings idea…
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I am glad for that, especially because the previous finisher mori changed them too. But I'd prefer to have ebony moris. DH is unreliable and Rancor is pretty situational, even if it's the better pick for any possible memeing (survivors are often too scared to risk hit-and-running a fully stacked DH killer unless they've given up.)
And the proposed changes to the mori offerings make them completely outclassed by survivor puddings. I just don't see the necessity of changing them, minus the cypress mori which has been made basekit.
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I think they need to change it (Mori offerings) to something like this: 150-200% more bloodpoints for killers only.
Honestly what is 30k even? It's way too low for a 4k requirement.
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Photo bombing mori's is practically mandatory. Taking that away makes the game boring imo.
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Yeah. In a match where I 4k, unless I won the game really quickly or mass slugged, I most likely have a score around or above 30k anyway. We have yellow, green, and event offerings that double your score no matter what - those are just categorically better than an offering that will give you a comparable boost of bloodpoints only if you win the game and only if the last survivor doesn't nab hatch.
In my ideal world, moris give bloodpoints and let you death-hook mori survivors. Actually, what if it was a bloodpoint boost for the killer and also for any survivors that got moried? Like ebony does what it does now but gives the killer a stacking 50% bonus bloodpoints for every mori they get, and also a non-stacking 50% bonus bloodpoints for the survivors who got moried? Make survivors crave that sweet cinematic kill. I've seen complaints about people bringing moris during events to be toxic, and while I think complaints about the toxicity of moris are about four years too late, this would pretty neatly put a pin in that.
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Tbh - there are no many killers care enough to bring moris… It's actually rare…
And this was the issue - developers spending time and effort to make these animations and they are not being used for like what…? 70-80% of your matches?
It's bad and it just feels like a waste of time. They need to make mori animations to appear more often in the game.
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Behaviour please just let the Iridescent add on be used to still kill all survivors on death hook. It can still give the bonus bloodpoints. Just please dont remove being able to do 4 moris from the game…
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I want to have fun. Moris as they are right now are fun, Moris in the PTB are not, they're unsatisfying.
Nobody wants this version of a Mori. It promotes slugging for the 4k. It buffs slugging and nerfs a fun aspect of the game most people on both sides enjoy and love. It removes tactics from the game. Please please please just make Cypress basekit, retire it, and then add BPs to green and Iri Moris alongside letting them mori multiple people per round. Don't make all Moris ONLY give BP, let us Mori as many people as we want. It would be a massive crying shame to waste all the effort the devs have worked on for the Mori animations this way, turning Moris into yet another sweat mechanic.
I will keep saying this same exact thing until BHVR reverts all Mori changes except basekit Cypress. Let us Mori multiples in peace.
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Then we should go and ask developers to revert changes to mori offerings - but keep the last survivor mori in tact. Shall we go into PTB feedback and post?
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Killers already slug for 4K. If this new mori system increases the prevalence of that in a meaningful way, people will stop playing survivors IG and killer mains will just need to take up the slack.
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It shouldn't have to be a choice between this or that. We should have both. This update ruins Moris as an offering, and basekit Mori at 4K is not enough to compensate, and bloodpoint bonuses for 4Ks are definitely not enough to compensate.
Again, we should have both, not one or the other.
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"People will stop playing because thing I dislike will become more prevalent" is a massive negative to removing Memento Moris as they are now. If you believe this, and you're right that it will increase it, then you should be massively against this change. Hell, you should be rallying against it.
"But people already do it" is NOT a good reason to remove it for the people who don't and never did. And that's what I don't think you see when you make statements here on the forums that support you being all too happy to nerf Killers' fun for the sake of maybe not getting the one in ten chance you could be slugged by a toxic one. If this change was a massive Survivor nerf, you'd riot.
Riot now, before BHVR does a massive Survivor change equivalent to this, or nobody will come to your aid.
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Yes. Every single day until this unwanted, unnecessary, anti-fun, awful change is no longer on their radar.
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I don’t really think this is going to increase the prevalence of slugging for a 4K in a way that matters. Slugging for a 4K already happens and currently reduces the match quality for those survivors affected. This finisher mori is quite unlikely to make it worse.
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I've posted a suggestion to change the offerings to just give + points for hooking instead of mori, this way killers have more incentive to spread hooks. For the mori on the last survivor yeah you should be given the option to kill or pick up.
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But then what is your excuse for the loss of the other two Moris? Why is that change OK and not just a slap in the face to a fun and unique mechanic? If it's not a problem, then why is this change being added? You should be against it for that reason, then.
The 4k slug problem is actually already happening more on the PTB. They should leave iri and green Moris alone. The only things that should go through are basekit Mori on last person, points for Moris, and the unobstructed obstacles. So most of it.
Just not the removal of ebonies and greens.
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