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Thoughts on the current state of DBD
what are your thoughts on the current state of dbd?
no- this is not a post to start anything. Just want general feedback.
My thoughts- the game was fun, but lately hasn’t been. I play both killer and survivor. Killers get a ton of aura perks even if running current distortion(I don’t usually run it but my friend does) it’s useless. Hearing about the rework kinda made me see what direction dbd is going. I’ve been playing since 2020, and honestly I think it’s about time to call it quits. I’m sorry but a killer should not have 3 modes and be able to have pyramid heads power. Being able to teleport across the map is crazy. (Dracula btw). It’s always anti pallet, anti vault locations, aura build. I really wish auras never became a thing. Use your skill and headset to find survivors. Then adding more aura perks… sigh. Killer is way too easy and survivor is way too hard. I’m curious to know draculas kill rate at this moment. What about reworking legion or doctor. It’s just not fun anymore. I guess solo queue has become a thing of the past. All my friends are quitting because the game is never fun. Getting humped on the ground, getting bled out on the ground, toxic teammates sandbagging on purpose. Teammates giving up. I just don’t get it. After the PTB notes it seems as if there is more slugging going on. I would love to see some stats since the PTB and what draculas kill rate is at this moment. Is there a way to see that?
Also- queue times for late night or early morning dbd on east coast have been so horrid. I shouldn’t have to wait 10 minutes to find a match. Is there something being done about this? And yes- cross play is enabled.
love to hear everyone’s thoughts and advices. Please no arguing. Thank you and GG dbd enjoyers
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We'll probably see more killers like Vecna and Dracula since their mechanics are more enjoyable compared to the failures such as Knight or Skull Merchant.
Which I'm okay with as it might open the idea of a Killer with multiple weapons or something like that.0 -
I think solo queue matchmaking could be a lot better. It's my main source of frustration with the game. I really don't understand the point in instantly throwing me into a terrible match instead of letting me wait another minute. I'd rather wait 2-5 minutes for a good match instead of an instant queue for a game that is functionally over within 2 minutes.
Killer is fine for me at the moment. There's really no reason to not run a strong build every game. I either clobber some poor team at 3-5 gens or have an intense match.
Solo queue just needs help in general. Mainly through tighter matchmaking, but also some sort of base solution for tunneling. The game can survive on the licenses alone, but the tunneling handicaps the growth so much. It's a generally hated tactic, and there's no base kit solution or non-DLC solution. There's needs to be some nuance to the conspicuous action condition.
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Normally I come into these threads and say something like “this game is in a great spot right now!” or something positive but lately this game hasn’t been fun on either side.
I’m an OCE player so every second game I’m shoved into Asian servers with high ping because for some reason they decided to merge us awhile ago. I can’t even talk to anyone in post game chat because we don’t speak the same language so it feels lonely. Certain killers like Wraith are unplayable due to the ping because his post uncloak lunge literally doesn’t work!
Killer is miserable right now because of the insane amount of throwers and toxicity. One game you get completely destroyed and the toxicity makes you feel like a complete failure and then the next game starts decent but then someone throws and now you are just stuck in a game that ended 5 minutes ago. Then the cycle repeats. It’s not fun at all, even when you win.
Survivor is just as miserable. Solo queue feels like playing Russian Roulette but with 5 bullets. Every game is either the killer trying to make the game as bad as possible, getting paired with a killer really below your MMR so you just feel awful stomping them and watching your team BM after, an actually decent game but oh no! Meg didn’t like that the killer played Dracula so I guess it’s a loss now. Solo queue was always meh but tunnellers and throwers have made it unbearable.
I haven’t played this game longer than 1-2 games this past few weeks because it honestly feels depressing to play.
Balance wise, the game is in a pretty spot. But the insane amount of toxicity, tunneling, throwers have made the game feel awful to play right now.
Sorry for the huge rant hahaha!5 -
Well, I've disagreed with almost everything that has been done to this game since July of 2019, so unless the entire game (except Legion) gets reverted back to how it was when I first played it, all the way back in 2018, it is unlikely for me to have a lot of positive things to say about its current state.
It isn't unplayable, no, it just isn't the game I want to play.
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Pretty much this for me
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Games haven't felt good for awhile. Upcoming patch is, imo, going to make them feel even worse. I've had no desire to play lately.
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I don't kow how you can say all that but then say the balance is a good spot, lol. I mean something is definitely off if you have that many complaints.
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playing as survivor is terrible because how much you get tunneled and camped, and doing gens is boeing and easy af
and playing as killer is terrible because of how extremely fast the gens are done, and kicking gens is a joke that does nothing
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To put it short i feel like my killer games are against people who can play and my survivor games are with people who don't know how to play well.
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The game is never going to be perfectly balanced. Compared to what it was previously the game's balance is infinitely better. When people aren't playing like complete ######### and the matchmaking works, the game is actually pretty balanced for the most part. I even think tunnelling is 'balanced' right now, it's just awful to play against which is the issue. Of course the game needs more balance changes, but ultimately the issue is that no matter how balanced the game is it's never going to feel good to play when everyone is just making the game miserable.
Whether the game is balanced or not won't change the fact OCE players are playing on 200 ping, it won't make the community less toxic, it won't fix match making, it won't stop people throwing games, and no matter how balanced tunnelling it will still feel awful. None of my issues with the game right now come from balance really.
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I feel quite burnt out with DBD atm. I play a lot of solo q and the majority of my matches feel pointless. I wish MMR was tighter so I could load in with better team mates because the killers I load in with are playing for a cash prize I don't know about for quickest 4k. On top of that I get ALOT of toxic survivors. I actually had a conversation with a killers last night after they witnessed my team sandbagging me and they said "I'm sorry, I hope you have better matches" and I said thanks. I play sometimes with friends but if I didn't I would probably uninstall and just play other games.
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Solo Queue is terrible. That is all I know. And it won't ever get better.
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I 100% agree
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I think they've did a pretty good job so far. " seriously tho too, i like the World of DBD and like i just play to relaxed, idle on…. just chill and kill when i am chilling… jam out or watch horror movies too while playing, its fun, i like the maps and walking around, chasing is fun to catch them peskies. i like the detail of them game, items on shelves and what not, i admire things within, its not all about killing, i know i never play survivor but nonetheless…. its a very nice game/experience////slash. i like staring at survivors and looking down deep in their soul, i like the meme moments with survivors… i like to pretend the survivor is saying what i am think… i speak for them if you will. I love the World of DBD🙂
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I like that they're doing new game modes, and I'm happy that 2v8 was so popular. I prefer the base game personally, but any win for DBD is a win for all DBD players imo.
I feel like matchmaking has changed in some strange way recently, it may be causing some extra issues.
It's a fun game, but I wish the game was more about looping like it used to be. That's why I play M1 trapper more now. I get to have fun chases like I want and the survivors usually have a fun game too. I'm surprised at how often I'm 3 and 4king though.0 -
Just waiting for 2v8 to come back. Unless they're cooking up something major, I predict 2v8 is the last ambitious thing we're gonna see happen for this game for the rest of its lifespan. All the other little details like moris being changed or killer/perk reworks and other balancing things are just dressing at this point. Even new chapters get stale after a few weeks.
Now if we got a suite of QoL stuff or they radically changed the artstyle (again) or introduced brand new universal mechanics (that aren't boring like breakable walls were) then I'll eat my words. But it's looking like BHVR has settled into a stable (if not a bit inefficient) content release cycle, and they're very comfortable with it.
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The casual playerbase I play with finds the game very unforgiving, whether I watch them play killer or we play together on survivor, more and more I see complaints how the current game flow is very easily exploitable, and matchmaking encourages people to play competitively due to being matched with people of similliar skill.
I personally dislike:
-Shrinking of maps (Ormond, Coldwind)
-Hug Tech inconsistency (removed off dracula, kept on Wesker etc)
-Tunneling being answered by perks
-Anti-Camp is utterly worthless
-Haste/Hinder Builds
-Snowball builds (both killer and survivor)2 -
I think if the game went back to around 50%killrate it would feel 100 times better than now. The fact that you can play an entire evening of soloq and not escape once and it's not even that extraordinary already shows how miserable it is. In a state like that you can't even blame people for giving up early, most games are hopelessly lost before they even start and I get why people don't want to stick around and rather try again.
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I mean it would feel better for survivor until once again they have 10+ minute queues because killer players stopped playing once again because a kill rate designed around killers on average never winning isn't enjoyable.
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Let's be honest, it's called "Dead by Daylight", not "Alive by Sunrise". Victims are supposed to be slaughtered brutally, so nerfing their tools of survival is just fine.
Slight joking aside; it'll be fine. The game goes through lulls and peaks of the game being balanced slightly more to one side or the other, all you gotta do is either play meta, get better, or simply not take the game too seriously and just try to have fun as you can. In the end, there is nothing wrong with playing another game, if you aren't happy with the current meta/state of the game, same goes for every other game out there.
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felt and I’ve taken the break but now it’s just even worse. I’m getting thrown in matches with players that have very little hours. And I escape often so I’m sure my MMR is not that low. They need to update their matchmaking. I would rather wait much longer for better quality matches than going in a match and it be over in 2 minutes because players are giving up, sweating so hard, or do not even do the objective. Sometimes I feel like it’s unsportsmanlike to just go hide in a corner. Why play the game if you’re just gonna hide. And that’s without distortion
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and also- I know it’s called dead by daylight lol I don’t mind dying but when killers are constantly tunneling or slugging to get the match over with so quickly it’s quite annoying
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"Sometimes I feel like it’s unsportsmanlike to just go hide in a corner."
That's because it is unsportsmanlike.
If a fellow victim is still alive, and you decide to just hide and let them die on hook? That's unsportsmanlike. Last teammate dies, despite your efforts? Fine, rush to find hatch, but don't hide in a corner. That makes no sense.
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