How much more help do survivors need?

Patch Notes 6.1.0 say HELLO. 😉

To answer your question, significantly more. Kill rates are still too high.

If the killer hits you off the hook, then base kit BT does its job perfectly fine. You don't go down immediately. That is all base kit BT is supposed to do. You get somewhere and have a fighting chance instead of going down immediately with no chance to get anywhere because your team mate didn't bring BT.

If the anti face camp mechanic doesn't come into play then it effectively does what it is supposed to do as well. It discourages face camping. Keep in mind; this is not an anti CAMPING mechanic but an anti FACE camping mechanic. It is not supposed to punish proxy camping.

I agree that slowdown perks weren't gutted but it is objectively true that they were nerfed. Pop has gone from 25% flat regression to first 20% of the current progress, then 30% and now it's back to 20%. That's a pretty noticeable nerf. 1/3 of it's power from the previous iteration is gone and that was worse than 25% flat out.

Pain Res has gone from 15% for each scourge hook to 25% for each unique scourge hook to now 20% for each unique scourge hook. That is a 20% nerf. Very noticeable but Pain Res remains a good perk because it offers something killers always need. Slowdown.

Dealock was nerfed as well (I still think it's unhealthy) and the same goes for Grim Embrace, although to a lesser degree. DMS is set up for a change. Whether that's a nerf or a buff depends on the killer it's used on. On Doctor, Billy, Blight and Artist it would be a nerf. On Trapper or Freddy it would be a buff.

You won't get slowdown perks out of the meta. Even if you nerf them to the point they all become mediocre. Because the very concept of slowing down games is what makes them good.

So you think free 10s of BT and 10% Haste, "doesn't do anything"? And that a killer can just camp you, and has no risk of the anti-camp meter filling up? Not only do they come into play, but I think you're being ungrateful that you have those things. It's probably your teammates' fault for not taking advantage of those mechanics. Someone gets 10s of safety for free, surely they have time to line up a body block. Someone's being camped, surely they're leaving so the camp meter will actually fill, or just hook trade. There's no reason for them not to be doing those things, since there's no reason the killer shouldn't be camping or tunneling. People complain about killers, but don't use strategy to combat them, or have bad teammates and still blame the killer for something.

Getting base BT was one thing, but they also get Haste, and then they act ungrateful for it, like it's nothing. It's not nothing, else killers wouldn't complain about it being used offensively.

The problem is that you're going off kill rates to begin with. Killer has, what, 60% kill rate? That means out of 100 games, you could draw 70. "Wow, that's a really good outcome for killer, right?" No, it isn't. And all this is assuming that kill rate is accurate, which it isn't. How many survivors throw games for no reason when they clearly could have won? So don't go off the kill rate stat. It gives you nothing of substance, and only misleads you.

The developers tried to balance around 50% kill rates before, but that didn't really work.

That means out of 100 games, you could draw 70. "Wow, that's a really good outcome for killer, right?" 

That would give you, at worst, a loss rate of 5% vs a win rate of 25%. You would be winning 5 times as many times as you lose, and that's the hypothetical worst case.

Found the keyboard tough guy who doesn't play killer at all yet likes to tell other people how bad they are

SoloQ needs help, not survivors. This game is complete fine for SWF's

I mean alternatively they hit you off the hook and you instantly went down, its still a decently big basekit buff that removes the need to use a perkslot for it

Honey, there were killers that were complaining about PTB Weaving Spiders. Killers complaining about something is not a barometer for how effective it is.

The biggest reason why 50% kill rate is not possible comes from survivors throwing the game, not killers being overpowered. It takes one survivor to grief the match by progressing to stage 2 hook in few seconds after being downed and then intentionally missing 2 skill checks and dying - all this in less than 1 minute. Even if this was not counted as a ''kill'' for the killer by some means, the remaining 3 survivors are very likely to lose the match and end up sacrificed, so there goes an inflated high kill rate number.

Those who play SoloQ know very well why it's the hardest game mode - it's because of fellow survivor team mates. The amount of people who intentionally grief right now is way too high and it will likely remain so unless developers introduce ways to either prevent the griefing or harshly punish such players.

Basekit BT allows you to run in a safe area, regardless if the killer is chasing you or not so i won't consider it useless at all; only survivors that don't know where to run consider it weak... Anticamp was made to counter facecamping and killers that can defend the hook optimally due to their powers (such as Billy, Bubba, Myers, etc etc) not proxy camping, not to mention that grabs during hook saves were removed so... Antigen perks were gutted period (wanna go back at old pop that regress 25% of a generetor instead of being applied on the total progression of said gen? Wanna go back at old pain res when It did the same thing that pop did but from distance, WITHOUT tokens and the regression applied on the total charged of a generator instead of being applied on the progress done? Wanna go back at old ruin/overcharge/call of brine/etc etc? If those perks were not gutted for you then you won't have troubles to revert their changes…). Please, at least try to be impartial on that matter…

This is not true. Why do so many people pretend they understand statistics. Dunning krueger effect?