So am I just cracked as Dracula or is he really op?

I agree with this. Playing Drac is a lot of fun but I can't help but feel bad for survivors who make a ton of distance only to immediately lose it after swapping to Bat form.

I believe that Dracula is stronger than they give them credit for.

The Bat is an amazing cut-off tool and heavily reduces the amount of distance from a hit, you basically have a built in Save The Best For Last into your power… that being said, it can also be unfun to play against since the difference in distance really shuts down a lot you can do depending on map layout or resources (and lack there of resources)… but also unfun does not necessarily equal unbalanced either so I think it is fine as it is for now.

Hellfire is… a bit too much. If Dracula ONLY had Hellfire, Id say "buff it" but Hellfire in its current state is really strong when you consider the fact that Dracula has multiple powers. The presence of holding Hellfire alone is strong enough to get hits solely from zoning pallets, and it makes bodyblock pointless and unhook extremely unsafe for you and the other Survivor… Pyramid Head does not have this issue as much since Rites of Judgement has more restricted turning compared to Hellfire.

The Wolf form is fine. Im not a fan of the Haste you gain from Scent Orbs since a lot of people just use it to mindless run around loops or stack it with Haste perks to make playing against it really miserable. Honestly nerfing the Scent Orbs and buffing the Pounce would overall make it more fun to play as/against.

A Dracula player who can utilize their entire kit can definitely put in a lot of work. The issue is that a lot of players dont want to learn the intricacies of when, where, and how to use all three powers to its fullest.

Nurse isn't op, there are many things you can do against her. Dracula is weaker than her so he's nowhere near op.

He is a very fun Killer to play, has alot things to learn and feels rewarding when played well, as a Killer should be.

Playing against him, for me at least.. I find him fun as well except his ability to punish unhooks like he can do with Hellfire. The unhooked Survivor should have at least 1 second more on i-frames so he cannot be put in Deep Wound immediately and be downed on the spot again. That's like the only unfair thing about him really.

While at it, the same thing should be applied to Pyramid as well.

You're completely right that this forum is terrible to get actual information from. Killer mains will lie to you, and then survivor mains will also lie to you. Because they are right, no matter what.

I dont believe people posting hours would work. It would spin everything into a 'Clearly, my 3,125 hours is more than your 3,112, so your opinion is invalid.' Like MMR, we dont need to know hours to know they aren't as high as they think.

The best way would be to try it yourself and form an opinion, but if you're deciding on purchasing or not… I'd just not. He's still the main course right now, and in a month or two, he will be nerfed into the ground, as per usual with this business model. This is based on history, not my opinion.

Majority of the people here, from what I've read, placed him in high B tier / low A tier, but it was before last buff. Last buff really made him really strong A tier killer and raised his skill cap higher. I actually didn't plan to play him a lot, but this buff definately changed it.

Do you need a guide how to outplay hellfire and wolf?

It's just the transition into bat.

Everything else is fine in my opinion. Gaining distance in chase is the reward for a survivor. Regardless of what play you do against Dracula, due to the transition speed, you gain no distance.

I dint think this killer is too strong, especially when killers like Nurse are allowed to exist. I do think however, that this particular aspect makes him very unfun to face.

A game is supposed to be fun. If it's not fun, people stop playing.

I don’t think he as a killer is bad, just boring and kinda unoriginal. It’s mainly his perks I dislike

His Hellfire is extremely spammable, great at zoning and just dunks on loops entirely.

His Bat Form is a Spirit Lite that goes over pallets and windows with like a 2.5s Cooldown (compared to Spirit's up to 15s cooldown). He can also M1 extremely fast out of it. If you throw on Dissolution he can shut down every dropped pallet with zero effort.

He's extremely uninteractive in basically every way. Both Hellfire and the Bat need nerfs and the Wolf needs buffs because it's just not worth using as-is.

The bat buffs made him quite strong now

Both. Dracula isn't a pushover like some other laughably weak killers on the roster. He's in a great spot and a breathe of fresh air overall. This may be premature for some, but I'd put him easily in the top 5 killers in the game currently. He is very much a killer's killer. You don't feel as limited or that your hands are tied at certain tiles like other killers have historically struggled with. In terms of what you can do, the skill ceiling is much higher, if you get where I'm coming from.

I like him and a survivor and killer standpoint.

I do feel he is a tricky one to learn but being on console it's difficult to switch through forms quickly and figure it all out. I'm sure I'll get there but I stick with wolf and Dracula for now. I do think he needs a stronger cooldown on switching forms and hellfire. The Hellfire is great and stops infinite loopers, but being on the survivor end to many who play him spam the Hellfire and it's annoying. He is fun to engage in a chase though. I love it and it's fairly easy to dodge. I think the bats are a little OP but you can see them coming, but it drags out a game when they can patrol to easily with batform. I don't particularly like the scent balls but I do understand them and the pounce is like you need that first pounce to judge where you land. This I have noticed from players and playing him on my own. All in all just slight tweaks. I don't feel anything needs to change on him but slowdowns to changing forms.

His bat form is most important power for him to be an effective killer. Dracula also has drawback in his ability. For one, he can't see survivors in bat form and he has those bat-noises that make it harder to track survivors. A survivor is suppose to juke bat form and make it difficult for killer to track the survivor. It is really same logic as spirit. Bat form is also not that good at loops. His other two abilities are for loops and they have their separate balance.

This makes him difficult to balance, because all 3 should not be as oppressive as the one power of one other killer.

He isn't difficult to balance because while he has 3 separate abilities, he is only capable of using 1 ability at a time and each of the abilities are suppose to have distinct strength and weaknesses in every instance of time. Bat form is entirely designed around excelling at catching-up survivors inside chase and moving around the map to enter chases. the pre-buffed version was overly punished and somewhat weak for killer to use. His bat form seems fairely balanced to me. a killer that uses bat form correctly will reap rewards for using the ability correctly while a killer that misuses bat form or his other abilities will find the killer not very effective.

In my opinion, dracula is one of the most balanced killers that dbd has release in many chapters. The survivors have all the tools to succeed and loop dracula while killer has all the tools needed to outplay the survivor at every turn which is what a lot of other killer tend to lack.

The transition to bat, as a catch up - tool, right now outperforms other killers by a mile. This is not only unfun to face due to the survivor not being rewarded for good gameplay in chase but also goes against the logic i stated earlier with the 3 powers in one.

That is because other killer trash or overly punished by distance. if you ask me, the other killer need buffs to be at dracula's level but a lot of problems are fundamental to the games core. In my opinion, survivor shouldn't be rewarded massively for a single good play that wins them the entire match. they should need to outplay the killer multiple times over the course of a match to come out on top. Like I said with other killers, the top high-tier killer all are like that which is why they're high tier and more difficult to escape from than other killers. A lot of drawback you talk about are non-existent. Billy in current form has 0 cooldown and spams chainsaw 24/7 for even smallest amount of distance gain. Every loop is basically is curvable for the most part. Nurse you need to outplay multiple blinks to succeed vs her. the drawback you list for spirit and chucky make no sense. these two killer use their ability when they are in range of the survivor and both of these killer require you to outplay their respective abilities multiple times

Oni is example of a killer where he is way over punished for failing and somewhat punished for succeeding. While he has same properties as the above listed killers, his ability artificial has like 90 second cooldown. It is way too easy to outplay Oni even a single time and than he loses. It is why i think Oni is one of the most over-rated killers. it is not balanced for high-level. it is balanced for middle level.

Wesker loop balance is very sad. vs good players, his regular ability is just too slow. he only gains viability in outplaying survivor at loops when using a tech that…. honestly at some point will likely get fixed because dracula wolf and blight hug tech which were similar tech got fixed. this guy is just waiting his turn. As for his actual balance, i think his balance was oriented that when a survivor is fully infected, wesker has advantage in this chase but when a survivor is not infected, he has disadvantage in chase. Previously when tunneling survivor off-hook, he was extremely oppressive in the chase as his 8% hindered penalty was easy to acquire with red herb+video device by hitting BT and the odds that you would ever loop him was next to 0. Since than, they have nerfed his infection the ground. To put it bluntly, almost nobody gets infected fully vs his ability as long they hold vaccine bottle. due to his balance being based off infection being strong or weak, He is very mid-killer in my opinion. He is balanced for middle level. He was balanced for high-level before when infection was strong but it was too strong. Now it is too weak.

Bats being able to go over vaults and pallets make him a better version of Spirit.

Killer catch-up in my opinion is single most important ability for killer. I would almost define killer that are "S-tier" from not S-tier solely on catch-up. that is how important it is. I am not saying a killer cannot be high-tier/strong without catch-up but if they are strong without this ability, they tend to be exaggerate killers with exaggerated gameplay strategy that is often perceived as broken/unfair. What do i mean by that? Skull merchant is an example of exaggerated character that exceled at 3 gens. She was high-tier by from an exaggerated mechanic that wasn't typical strong stable killer kit. The perception of this strategy was well, you know… lets not talk about details about 50 minute comp matches. Weakening Dracula's bat form would nerf dracula to a much lower standing killer that is less fun to play for killer and a lot less engaging for survivor because the survivor can play in ways that is less engaging in chase.

I'm hoping he does not receive negative changes to bat form as we have not had such a complete killer for awhile now.

He is strong but not even in the top 3, why are we talking about nerfing a killer who isn't even the top 3? He is the new and hot right now so more people are playing him but that will fade with time, there is no need to nerf him as people will move on to other killers after the honeymoon phase is over. I would argue we spend more time building up things that need it over nerfing stuff that is just an annoyance, this community is way to nerf happy for the "other side."

He's decent with a decent amount of tools. He's pretty good at contesting hooks but that could always be adjusted.

I find it interesting that people have only realized the power of bat post buff...meanwhile I've always been playing Drac like this. Now that people aren't obsessing over Wolf form we can see what he's actually capable of.

i was using bat form for 80% of the games before, even when it has 5 second cooldown. it was just…. idk less rewarding. it is hard to describe.