Current ornyo is to weak
Not a sadoka main, but recently ive played her and shes overwhemly weak, like on par with trapper base kit at high mmr.
Her power itself is simple, huge cooldown with rng teleports that could apply condemn, and for loop she has demanifesting, which is cool.
Her tvs itself are so weak and are always a lose-lose situation. For starters projection is disabled for the first 30 seconds of the match, and all the tvs are randomly placed around map, their extremely weak or strong- usually no in-between. If you do decide to ever use projection, theres a 45s cooldown for every tv, and it becomed 75s per tv if a survivor disables it… Which effectively punishes you for using your power, which is so stupid. But its not the worst part of her kit.
Onto the cursed tapes something that should be CURSED is a BLESSING for any survivors with 2 braincells, if they retrieve a tape they become immune from all condemnation.And all pressure you got from it is reset until you find them.If you do find them you HAVE to chase them, which now gives NO condemn for survivors caught with a cursed tape. If a survivor ever reaches above 4 stacks of condemn they are free to actually do the objective and put a cursed tape into a tv, which depletes total condemn by 3 stacks or 42% of what the killer needs to mori them.
The only good part of her kit is demanifesting, which makes you intermediary and have no TR or red stain and no pallet stuns. its not to weak or strong and its the only good thing of her kit.
Sadoka should halve the time for teleporting to tvs to 45 to 22.5 seconds for successful teleports, to reward good plays. Cooldown for survivors turning off tvs should be 50s instead of 75.
As for cursed tape they should passive apply 1 stack of condemned every 15s not in chase, and give 2 stacks if caught with it.
Addons are pretty weak or extremely to specific but nobody has the reading comprehension to endure that long
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she’s not trapper weak her mindgame potential is much better with her weird visibility and she’s a tunneling menace.
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the current dynamic is that the mechanic is always lose/lose for one side.
If you don't interact with TV's, you win/win by spamming teleport on Sadako. Eventually, everyone get condemned, abide slowly.
If you do interact with TV's, than it is lose/lose because you lose the ability to teleport to apply condemn and survivors will erase their condemn stacks.
As result, you either win super hard if survivor new or can't use the ability at all in effective manner if the survivor is experienced.
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Her weak points is no chase, her stealth is not good and cursed tapes mean nothing, so you have to spam. Its boring. I still love her because welll… I just do….but yeah…after a few reworks she still isnt good.
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eh, trapper power can always deny vaults aswell as pallets, id argue thats better than having a glitch effect. And trappers can tunnel to.
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Sorry for the false dichotomy, i was trying to reference the tradeoff between the killer and survivor but it came off more as just saying its a lose lose situation.
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Im not chronically online i promise u replied as soon as i got on forums 😭
But my issue with spamming is its no skilled and not fun as survivor, it shouldn’t be a game mechanic to use projection as soon as a tv comes back but currently its the only viable often for condemn
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Its not for Sadako (Me either) I do main her..P100 and I don't care for this rework.
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spamming an ability isn't inherently bad. it is bad when it is only gameplay loop that exists for that killer to make an impact with said ability. abilities need more dimensions then 1 but for sadako. it is clearly 1 dimensional action to mori.
my thought is that i think dev expected you to not use condemn as strategy to kill but as strategy to permanent slug people to death using the blindness add-on that makes you perma blind with 4 stacks. the problem is that i only see this as viable vs 4 pure soloq players. a gimmicky slowdown power based off slugging.
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If they thought that though why introduce the lock-in condemn mechanic? 🤔
This has given me much to think about. It’s odd she has 2 blindness addons as well.0 -
Yeah she is either oppressive af when survivors have no clue what to do and when they do, there is nothing you can do. The funny thing is you consider her stealth the best part of her kit which is pretty much telling she is in a bad spot, because the stealth itself is not good. I like to mention the addon, they were so much stronger and more interesting in the past, but they removed all the good ones and now we have what we have.
This is my idea for her if you wana read:
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to lock-in blindness.
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