I had success with trapping people on loops and just endlessly turning the rotation till the become injured, boring but it works not that I overly played her before.

i still giving up instantly against her. I dont care, its not how much weak or strong she is. She is absolute unberable and i cant stay in the matches against her. She should be the first delete charather in the game.

That only really works on people who are clueless against her and in that case almost anything works. Unless it's a really unsafe loop most people will just stand still to be immune and wait until you make a move that forces them to leave. The vault immunity also gives them a lot more wiggle room too, frankly I've found it really hard to scan people normally? I dunno, if it weren't for the fact that low power mode is bugged(?) that's the best way I've found to scan people since you can force them into it.

SM mains now may dc at the start of the match. An eye for an eye!

Nah that isn’t possible, I got 4ked by her and the undetectable is still incredibly annoying and super random.

i doubt stats will drastically fall, people still give up way too easily against her because "omg it's SM 😡😡😡"

I wish you could pin comments.

I guarantee none of the regulars or people who posted in this thread will respond to you lol.

So what in her kit made her such much more killy then Nurse, Blight, Hillbilly or Spirit? Was the random injuries when she was nowhere near that brutal? Oh wait, thats still in her kit … dayum.

I believe that actually nothing made her this killy, but survivors behavior who didn't want to play against her, fostering some age old resentments against her original form.

If the devs goal is 60% kill rate, then those killers are objectively overperforming. So if the devs are actually wanting to maintain balance they would find a way to reduce that performance, yes.

I'm not sure why you think this is some kind of slam dunk argument when you provided the official stats that support this conclusion.

So, in your opinion, the official stats are somehow not over performing devs goal of 60% kill rate? The data is literally right there. Denying those facts is the textbook definition of delusion.

If so-called M1 "weak" killers are consistently able to blow that metric out of the water, and they've been near the top for at least a year or two now, are you saying they need buffs? By what basis?

ETA: you're both missing the obvious conclusion that's also the same as SM here. These killers need reworked.

These killers need reworked.

This is true for Freddy, yes, but not because of kill rates. His kill rates have way more to do with the people who still play him than with how his power works.

They've explained their process for evaluating killers ad nauseum, yet the community still debates it. They don't *solely* look at kill rates. They've said repeatedly that it's quantitative and qualitative e.g. kill rates along with player sentiment/fun factor. Kill rates are one part of the picture. But outliers can indicate that something needs to be addressed. The community just chooses to ignore the devs when they speak.

I tend to lose to more Pig players then nurse/blights cause pig players don't respect using a box with ticking trap, its already short enough you can only get to 4 of them before it goes off most maps so you have a 20% chance to just die cause of luck. But let you spend 90% on the box that might not be the one of the 5 you need to just down you and rehook.

Yeah, before she was at best an a tier killer, bur mostly B tier. Survivors just sucked and couldn't be bothered to understand how she worked.

All Skull Merchant players are my enemy, and must suffer. They must be punished.

I mean then survivors just get to go next. If 4 survivors DC against you as SM you're forced into a bot match and can't leave without getting a DC penalty yourself. That should be changed.