Dracula has too much going for him

PH has the better zoning ability with his ability and can be spammed multiple times at the same loop because the cooldown is 2.25 seconds. Hellfire is a 7second CD for the attack, far from "almost nonexistent." Quite the opposite actually it's one of the longer CDs for an ability compared to most of the roster who have shorter CDs. PoTD also doesn't slow you down to a absolute crawl to use it like hellfire does, and its a wider attack. Hellfire is not better than PH's PoTD.

The reason Dracula is able to take you down is because this…I see so many survs who cannot path. They avoid 50/50s, pass up close pallets/windows, and run into open areas that make it easy for him to follow-up. You wouldn't run into an open area with a killer like Spirit or Singu on your back would you? That's like the easist survs to take down. Same with Dracula, if you don't put some objects between you or at the very least play the pallet while he is in bat form he'll down you.

Also where are these free hits Dracula gets? Is there a sale on hits going on somewhere? How do I find this free hit sale?? I could certainly use some free hits, it'd be a lot less annoying than having to earn them currently.

I know you edited this but ill explain anyway:

1. Phase moves much faster than Bat form. Even without add ons Spirit catches up way faster.
2. Bat form is visible to survivors while Spirit Phase is not and instead survivors have to guess her loction based entirely on sound
3. (The big reason) Spirit can M1 straight out of her phase while Dracula has to switch to a different form which carries a lot of downtime to it. (Spirit can create 50/50 scenarios while Dracula cannot.)

Hes fine

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I dont even think Vampire form is better than Nemesis. The only thng it has going for it is that it has more range than Nemesis Tentacle Strike. Hellfire cooldowns are MUCH more punishing. Nemesis cooldown is limited to his recovery time which is lower than Hellfires (and he moves much faster while in recovery too) and his charge time, also faster than Hellfires. Hellfire has a harsh 7 second cooldown. Also in tier 3 Nemesis moves faster than Dracula while charging his power. Theres also the part that Nemesis can drag his hitbox around making his M2 much more deadly in chase. Overall this makes Tentacle Strike a lot better than Hellfire, though due to his other forms (mainly Bat form) Dracula is as a whole much stronger.

I think the only overtuned thing about his is Bat. The transform time going down made him feel so good to play, but his catchup game is ridiculous. Hellfire is fine imo, as if wolf. I'd prefer a happy medium between his old transform time and the current, but it'd probably be fine just reverting his transform time into and out of bat. Transform time being quick between wolf and vampire is fine imo.

true 😔

Drac does have a lot going on I admit...and yet I'd still rather play Pyramid Head with the new Zanshin Tactics.

Iirc wolf form has normal pallet breaking speed the animation is just front loaded aka you break the pallet instantly then stands there for 2.7s

Tehehehe, bet I can guess what killer you happened to lose to 10min before you posted this.

I think you must have misread my post about him, but he really is overtuned in the current form, and has too much going for him.
I suggested toning down the worst offenders in his kit, notably the short recovery time on both Hellfire and Wolf form, as well as his strongest add-on. And of course the bat form, which is his strongest tool.

Once those are dealt with, I am sure he will be in a much fairer spot.
And yes, before you complain or try to argue, I have played a fair share of games both as him, and against him.

In short: He is much too easy to secure downs with.

Well that would be true of any power that can close distances and break pallets or if you perfectly respect the pallet

I'm delusional thinking that BHVR, a company, wants to make profits?

What? Yeah, thanks for reminding why I should avoid going on these forums.

Wolf form is fine. It's got a lot of great applications in chase. I have no problem landing the pounce unless I'm going for super risky ones. It's great for chasing survivors trying to hold W in chase who haven't been injured yet, since healthy survivors are difficult for the bat form to follow. The tracking is great at any tile with a window that you can't hit over with Hellfire, since you get killer instinct when a survivor vaults that lets you know what direction they're running. The boosted speed from the scent orbs can pressure survivors to drop the pallet earlier than they want.

Im sorry but the Wolf form is far from fine.

If the survivor is holding W, even if its not injured, Bat form is still miles better. You can clearly hear footsteps and see scratch marks, ofc the survivor can try to juke you but you can also catch it much better and faster than the Wolf form. The killer instinct its too short of a duration and most of the time you have clear view of the window and you already see the direction the survivor is running into. The boosted orbs are the only thing that can maybe help you in certain tiles that you are not able to use Hellfire well. Also, if you are hitting most pounces i would say the survivors are not playing very well. The times where Pounce are most likely to hit its if you are in a narrow hallway or if the survivor is just not looking behind them and going in straight line.

Again, Wolf form was marketed as the "tracking tool" and the track is only worth in chase where most of the time you know where the survivor is.

And also i still dont see a reason why it breaks pallets THAT slow when by doing that you are also putting yourself in a position to be stunned instead.

Vampire form is also fine.

On this i agree. Vampire form is mostly fine i think.

The only problem with Dracula is the random buff they gave his transformation cooldown. He felt great and fluid to play at 5 seconds. At 2.5 you can hit a survivor and then bat form back on top of them immediately, it's stupid.

5 seconds never felt great and fluid. If i did transform into Bat to quickly teleport into a window, when i did reach it i still did need to wait more seconds to not even see the survivors until i could transform. Transforming sometimes was more of a burden than a good thing.

Now i can fully utilize shapeshift depending on the situation. Maybe at the end 2.5 seconds is too short? Maybe, but 5 was far too long, and i even say that 4 seconds would also be too long.

The lunge is really not that hard to hit with on keyboard + mouse if you have good reflexes. Once you get a feel for how far the initial dash goes, you can also do things like lunge forward as the survivor is rounding a corner, pivot, and then lunge into them for a hit.

Reflexes has not much to do with the tiny amount of time you have to aim. There is no prediction or trying to bait the survivor to go in a direction so you catch him there. You pounce and go randomly on one of the other directions the survivor can go (or just try to hit him without changing directions) and hope you hit him. On most other cases, Hellfire is far more reliable than the pounce.

Wolf form is great for tracking, you can see scent orbs from pretty long distances and it would be the best form for chasing survivors over open ground if they hadn't unnecessarily buffed his transformation cooldown.

Orbs have literally 12 meters basekit aura. Thats extremely short, i wouldnt call that "pretty long distance", not even just "long distance". Also, really… If in the open field you hit a Pounce is mostly the survivors fault, as they have literally every direction to go to dodge it.

You can tell what direction survivors run after they vault a window, but not if they kept moving. They could stop moving after breaking LoS and try to mindgame. With wolf form you know if they're just committing to a direction or not.

The killer instinct only have 2 pulses basekit. You lose the first one while he jumps and if the survivor moves to break LoS then the second one is lost there. Even with the two pulses, the survivor can stop after the second one and try to mindgame.

I think it's a bit iffy for you to be saying that I'm playing against bad survivors, when the ones you're playing against continue to keep running while healthy after you've shifted into bat form, instead of immediately walking and trying to hide to throw you off. It's impossible to hear breathing in bat form over all the screeching. It's not impossible to figure out where they went, but I could just use wolf form and the scent orbs for a similar effect, considering I haven't hit them yet and they aren't speeding off from being hit.

Sometimes survivors keep running, sometimes they walk, sometimes they vault a window fast and sometimes they do a slow vault trying to mindgame. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt, it depends if i am aware and try to catch them by shifting into another form. And even with that its still miles better than the wolf form and his 4.6m (or 4.8m/s) movement speed while the bat has a perma 6.5m. You can reach them with bat, get baited and go after them again and it will still be faster than chasing them with wolf.

As for the part about bat form, what you're describing is the reason why bat form didn't use to be overpowered. Survivors should have counterplay against you. Now it is overpowered with the 2.5 second cooldown since they don't have counterplay. You just show up in the window and insta-shift back. It's basically a THIRD chase power now, it should only be for moving around the map.

Kinda weird that you mentioned before survivors trying to outplay the bat form but here you dont mention it. Survivor can try to bait you by doing quick and slow vaults, or vault then move slowly. In pallets its worse because the survivor can just stand in one side if the pallet is dropped already and if you transform he can just jump over the pallet and you cannot hit him.

Sorry for all the quotes i did to your post but sometimes i like to discuss about Dracula. Dracula is strong, sure. But the Bat form did need the buffs it got and Wolf is still bad.

Dracula is fine