Why are there no more killrate updates?

I believe the kill rates we received this year came after those changes. My only source of umbrage is that the kill rates don’t factor matches with a DC and I think hatch escapes.

Accusing someone of lying based off of Nightlight alone is nuts. It may acknowledge trends, but Nightlight's data is nowhere near exhaustive.

How is nightlight in any way indicative of the vast majority of the playerbase, when only a small fraction use that site?

The devs themselves have stated that the incentives are unique to not only each region, but MMR bracket; as well as being affected by time of day you play. So your experience is not the same for everyone. Just because you are seeing mainly survivor incentives does not mean that there are not enough people playing survivor.

Because it's 100% unreliable data that misleads people.

You have to understand the difference between "not changed" and "not changed significantly".

Its obvious anyway you look at it though that killer is overpowered and easy mode in the game, both anecdotally and statistically. And just becauae statistics dont always tell the whole story it does provide a good deal of evidence when combined with other (such as the amount of survivors giving up) that killer overall has become the easy assisted mode in the game ( yes even freddy.)

It's an interesting site, but it has problems from a sampling perspective.

1. Self-reporting- Wins and losses can have an affect on whether someone chooses to report the result. There's no automatic data ingest.
2. I don't see any language options on the site. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. But if it's English only, you're naturally going to over-sample Western countries.
3. It's going to heavily over-sample PC platforms i.e. Steam/Epic via the method in which they ingest data. They take the data via screenshots through the Web UI or desktop app. It's not impossible for a console player to upload, but they'd have to jump through hoops.

It's a cool site and it can be fun to look at, but the data has problems.

I don't believe that is true. They remove DCs from the data, but not giving up. Also giving up has significantly different definitions, its not just a "Hook suicide"

They are included. The devs confirmed it with Skull Merchant. IIRC her killrate was 71% and when they were asked if that included people giving up, they said if they took away people who die on first hook then her killrate was 68%.

I hate the give up epidemic. probably 20-40% of my games there's someone who gives up immediately which means those games arent counted on there data but people are still experiencing it so realistically survivors are losing 70% of their games on average

Posts like this are probably the exact reason why BHVR are so hesitant to show any stats.

There's way too many variables and behind the scenes factors that go into these stats that them releasing them often has no real benefit. They just get twisted to fit whatever narrative you prefer. They didn't even share them here yet everyone is still making up random conspiracies about it.

What are you even talking about? You're just making random pronouncements. You said that Survivors just have to accept that they will lose because the game is designed for killer to be easier and survivors have to accept that. Well then you have to accept survivors won't stay in this worthless game. If you want to say nothing matters, statistics, circumstancial evidence, nothing, then go play a pve game. Otherwise accept that survivors are actual humans and don't care about how you try to justify an unfair game. Survivors aren't going to stay in the game just to massage your ego so you can pretend you're good at a game even though you're playing with rules rigged in your favor.

On top of this, there is also the issue that they exclusively use survivor-reported data for killrate stats, so there is both the bias of the kind of matches survivor players are more likely to be reporting, as well as that of the kind of players that would more likely be reporting on the site to begin with, skewing significantly toward more experienced players (given that they are interested in tracking their performance, aware of the site, and go through the trouble of submitting), that would also be more likely to play SWF than just any random average player. So you have stats that depict results from survivor players on the more experienced side, with a likely correlating overrepresentation of SWF, against random killers. Far from a random sample.

Given all that, it's honestly surprising how close they tend to get to BHVR's stats. But there are still notable differences. It's unfortunate that we can't look at nightlight's stats in much more detail either, it would be interesting to see the rates of all reports combined, to filter by killer-reported, by SWF, killer by map, killer by perk(s), killer by add-on(s), look at disconnect rates, at how many 3/4k matches had one survivor player score significantly lower than the rest of their group, and so on.

For the larger topic of killrates, it's definitely lame that they are only releasing any once in a blue moon. While I don't think too much will have changed since last time, there are some killers that would be interesting to see after their changes. Getting "high MMR" stats again would also be neat, as well as killrates on the respective maps and most commonly used perks, also for separate MMR brackets. At least we have recently gotten one new statistical insight: Contrary to common claims, people killing themselves on hook is far from a relevant factor in the killrates, as even for Skull Merchant it barely made a difference.

More than look at global average killrates however, I would hope BHVR at least internally actually make use of their ability to look at stats in much more detail, such as killers (and their add-ons) that are most represented in the "players with 70-80+% killrate" pool, or survivor players (and their perks) that manage comparable escape rates, to identify some of the most problematic killers/add-ons and perks stacked in SWF. It unfortunately doesn't appear they really do however, as most of their balance changes seem aimed at making killers coalesce around that 60% global average target, not really addressing blatant issues that anyone experienced at the game would be familiar with (in both directions: some killers having things that are problematically strong, others weak, despite not having concerningly low or high global average rates). They seemingly don't even put too much stock in "high MMR" stats, and that bracket is also still much too broad to see some of the most egregious, extreme issues, that enable players to dominate and win most if not all of the time. Granted, the primary issue is obviously the matchmaking that creates these much too broad player pools, but that if anything only makes it all the more compelling to address extreme outlier issues, as things are already easy enough in the vast majority of matches as a good killer player or a good survivor player in an SWF group with other good survivor players. The respective problematic killer characters/add-ons and stacked survivor perks enable these players then to have ridiculous winrates, basically never losing. Those things are simply not needed. You can win the vast majority of your killer matches as perkless Legion if you are good enough at the game - you don't need Nurse with good add-ons, she can get nerfed; and you can win the vast majority of your survivor matches if you are good enough and in a good-enough SWF - you don't need to be able to stack 4 BNP, 4 SB, 4 DS, and whatnot.