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Games are so fast these days

Akumakaji
Akumakaji Member Posts: 5,448

For real, had a match with Clown earlier tonight and my main plan was to equip Surge and get that 8 damaged gens tome challenge done in a jiffy. Well, RNG brought us to Eiry and the game lasted 8:30min with 3 hooks. Those survivors were cracked and out for blood! But 8:30min … oof, should a Clown match be that short?

Well, the next match brought us to the Yamaoka family estate and even though the survivors got an early flashlight safe, I totally tabled them and got three kills, all within the void, ain't that funny? I bet there is a joke somewhere in there.

That last survivor never got hooked and I escorted that Sable to the exit gates and she escaped at … wait for it, 8:30min … oof, should a Clown match be that short?

But at least it was all perfectly balanced - but in a totally crooked and twisted way. Clown lauged - but was not amused.

Comments

  • Akumakaji
    Akumakaji Member Posts: 5,448

    Have we arrived at a point were we consider 8:30min matches long, though? Yeah, as killer I speedrun a couple of times sub 3min, but this weren't regular matches, the survivors were really feading themselves to me and were stubborn to get that save/finish that gen/pick that survivor up in my face or whatever.

    8:30min would mean one hook each 42s, actually faster then that. Thats a pretty breakneck pace, no matter how you cut it.

  • Toystory3Monkey
    Toystory3Monkey Member Posts: 754

    im not talking about games you win by early snowballing.

    average game duration shouldnt be more than 8-12 minutes. gens simply dont take that much to complete + a few minutes to wrap it up.

    if people dont waste time and play efficiently, thats just about how long it should take.

  • Autharia
    Autharia Member Posts: 308
    edited November 3

    Right now Gen time is at its longest its ever been so games longer.

  • Akumakaji
    Akumakaji Member Posts: 5,448

    Thats only partially right: gen time has been unchanged since 6.1 in june 2022, but games in general aren't longer then in the past, far from it. Due to the environmental pressure, both, killers and survivors, adapted by trimming the fat off their respective playstyles and becoming more lean and efficient in the process.

    No one has time anymore to bumble around the map, hunt for bones or open chests or even work on a gen together. Most survivors learned during the 6.1 aftermath and the Overbrine-Eruption meta, that splitting up and pressuring different gens at the same time is king, thus you get this "first chase - 3 gens pop" syndrome.

    Thats not "wrong", its actually the best and most efficient way to play, but because both sides had to become hyper efficient in order to thrive and survive, matches have become much, much shorter then in the past and I am pretty sure that thats a fact.

  • ratcoffee
    ratcoffee Member Posts: 1,467

    I wouldn't call it long bit I wouldn't call it short either. It's inside the range for what I would call a normal length game

  • Hex_Ignored
    Hex_Ignored Member Posts: 1,898

    Just out of sheer curiosity, what would you consider a "normal" time for a match?

  • Tostapane
    Tostapane Member Posts: 1,654

    You were lucky after all... True genrushers makes games even shorter, especially if they take brand new parts paired with green toolboxes and perks for improving genspeed. Just yesterday i got a team that in 5 minutes did all the generators… you know that what could save the day in those cases? Noed (situational, true, but still useful)

  • Rudjohns
    Rudjohns Member Posts: 2,134

    No dbd match should be longer than 10 minutes

  • Marc_123
    Marc_123 Member Posts: 3,611

    Yes they are.

    I guess they will become even faster with less opportunities to hide. I already have that.

  • drsoontm
    drsoontm Member Posts: 4,901
  • DeBecker
    DeBecker Member Posts: 254

    So then whats wrong with your numbers? In both your matches one side got steamrolled. So the time is even pretty high for that.

  • jmwjmw27
    jmwjmw27 Member Posts: 413

    8:30 for a 3 hook match is not bad actually. Even if you assume 60s total travel time and only 2 survivors on gens, they can still get the gates open and leave in under 6 minutes.

  • 100PercentBPMain
    100PercentBPMain Member Posts: 1,021

    Old dbd was harder for Killers but at least pre 6.1 there was some slight room to breathe. Survivors didn't have the anxiety they do nowadays.

    After 6.1, there was like a 2 week honeymoon period where killers thought life was good, but then survivors stopped horsing around and then we were back at Square 1 as survivors made up for their nerfs by just prioritizing objectives.

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,351

    You're attributing "nasty" to how people normally play the game. It's like a killer not only getting mad at survivors healing fast or doing good in chase, but also saying, "That's so horrible, what you're doing to me! Play easier for me!"

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,351

    And you're sure that has nothing to do with the quality of your team? There were many games I could have won, or had the gens done way faster, had my teammates been playing half as well collectively as I had been individually. Take the killer on 5-10 gens worth of chase? Most likely they still don't get done. So it's matchmaking that needs looking at right now, not "the slow gens speed" as everyone says.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,156

    I still think 6.1.0 was a terrible patch that should have never happened.

  • fussy
    fussy Member Posts: 1,618

    Nah, you are 100% right. 90% of most interesting matches are always between 10 and 15 minutes. I would say that almost every match which ends under 7-8 minutes is heavily one sided and almost never feel balanced.

    It's ridiculously funny see people claim that match should be under 10 minutes from same people, who think that:

    • Killer should always go for 12 hook, no camping, no tunneling, no necessary slugging, no possible ways of pressure are allowed
    • Good killers with short chase are not allowed, it's not fun and we don't like them
    • Slowdown is not allowed, aura is not allowed, everything that saves you time should be nerfed
    • "Maps are so small nowdays, I miss time, when m1 killers hook survivor after 2 minutes chase and by the time they came to gen on another side of the map, we can have small talk, play Sea Battle with teammates, smoke some cigarettes and finally finish gen, until killers finally learn that there is no point in leaving hook at all"

    I swear bhvr should just release gen repair simulator to finally make most of player base happy.

  • SuspiciousBrownie
    SuspiciousBrownie Member Posts: 168

    I just made a Gen speed video where we popped all 5 gens in 4 minutes flat. Averaging 50 seconds a Gen.

    Tool boxes are crazy but people rarely use them lol

  • angrychuck
    angrychuck Member Posts: 49

    Holy hell that is too quick, the poor old killer must've wondered what happened :(

  • vol4r
    vol4r Member Posts: 267

    Do you expect surviviors to be bad?

    There is no different way to win, but pushing gens.

    Can't be mad because other side wants to win in PvP game.

  • vol4r
    vol4r Member Posts: 267

    Killing time is now too fast, too easy for killers. Of course surviviors will push gens.

    Too much power was given to killers, so survivors can't play around anymore if they want to have a chance to win.

  • Prometheus1092
    Prometheus1092 Member Posts: 395

    What came first chicken or the egg? Personally my experience is I used to go for hooks. But gens go so fast these days I just don't have time to find the survivors, chase them, down them and spread hooks. Since gens pop so fast I have been tunneling at 5 gens. Pressure is on right from the get go so I need to keep up with the pace.

    If gens took longer I wouldn't feel pressured to get kills so fast. I'm sure others would say killers kill fast so gens need to be quick but in my experience it's the other way round.

  • scoser
    scoser Member Posts: 488

    That's what happens when the main consideration for MMR is choosing players to "make queue times low". Most games are stomps for one side as a result.

  • RakimSockem
    RakimSockem Member Posts: 1,998

    Sounds like a good amount of time. After all, 7 minutes is all Wesker has to play