I'm a 90/10 survivor main, mostly because of hearing and vision problems making killer a much harder role. When I do play killer, its often very late night/early morning for my area, so I rarely get opponents as casual. And since I don't get 4ks very often, more often than not there will be at least one player who refuses to win gracefully. Their teammates usually join in when they know they are untouchable. End game chat/console messages are also a factor but obviously that affects either side and depends on platform.

But yeah, there is a metric ton of ego in this game's community. People regularly being disrespectful regardless of winning or losing. No two players are the same, but there are certain patterns that definitely exist.

I do and I'm low level on the killer side. Survivors are just nasty. I really don't like playing the game that much anymore. If I load into survivor 9 games out of 10 I'm slugged for the mori or just slugged. If I load in as killer I will get spammed with the flashlight, tbagged, or the squad so start crouch around me so I can't hook. I don't tunnel, slug, or proxy camp but I really understand why killers do. The whole DBD community more toxic gameplay than anything.

There was definitely a sharp cutoff in instances where I saw myself or others be given hatch or a gate since the finisher mori was introduced.

Killers have plenty of things too :)

We can use our powers to dominate survivors, teleport around the map (or across pallets), throw survivors into stuff, guard the basement chest, give them fun party hats, and literally teabag them back. Killers have so many more things than survivors.

I play killer and enjoy giving my survivors a good match, and I'll even do a 4k if I win a hatch race and am feeling like it's warranted. But I definitely won't be forcing someone to watch some animation celebrating how I sacrificed the other three members of their team and then got them too. Seems to me like an overall negative thing for the community.

Y'all teabag killers at the gates and now cry that killer gets to mori you lol

I very much think it's an issue that players on either side would be given a victory animation that they can force the other side to watch. There's enough toxicity in the game already without such a feature. It's really gotten to a point with it where I see it as being more toxic than teabagging at the gate.

And while slugging isn't the issue, it doesn't help that it's often accompanied by and even encourages slugging for 4k. It also has given killers a basekit ability that negates survivor perks in the endgame. It's like nobody thought it through. Honestly, I can't believe BHVR thought it was a good idea, and I'd be glad to fight hard to get it removed.

Removing it should be trivial too. There's almost certainly an 'if' statement in the code for each time a survivor gets downed, and when its parameters are met, the finisher mori is enabled. Just remove that, or even bypass it by hardcoding one of the parameters out.

Maybe once every 8-10 matches as killer, but it does not happen that often anymore. Unless the survivors are a toxic SWF group, it really does not happen very often. Most of the time, I get survivors whom I can joke around with

This is exactly why I've made my veryyyyyy old build my new one AKA bringing ALL the boons 😎 and so do my friends.

Exponentional, Shadowstep and CoH.

If I notice any uptick in killers playing a certain way during my gaming time I will bring those. You wanna slug, good luck snuffing 3 boons first, good luck finding survivors with your aura-reads blocked, and all the anti-healing perks lol. If the opposite wants to play nasty, well guess what 4 others can do that as well <3 Put in 4 map offerings whilst we're at it.

I think the only way to make the Devs realise something is too abuseble is by going about it this way, asking anything normally by explaining and giving actual arguments goes to deaf ears.

Tea bagging at the gate risks giving the Killer another kill. Slugging everyone and watching them bleed out is just tedious. Why not hook everyone and then enjoy the mori, even if you've seen it a million times?

I fail to see how this is a problem because no one complained whenever killers did the exact same thing back when they had to bring a cypress mori (myself included as i would bring one almost every match), but now that it's a basekit feature "OH then it's BAAAD"

Seriously, you're complaining about the fact that the killer is being rewarded for playing well, and here we are having survivors looking for another second chance for a way out by adding basekit unbreakable, my brother in christ you already lost who cares if the killer slugs you for the mori just watch a video while you wait you sound like a dumbass.

I'd argue that survivors teabagging at the gate should be discouraged also. But that's not a reason to enable the killer to force the last survivor watch them a victory animation once they've sacrificed all three of the last survivor's teammates. That seems more like bad sportsmanship than 'finishing a game well played,' much like a version of teabagging at the gate but where one player is forced to watch the 'winner' showing off.

It's also often associated with slugging for 4k, making it feel like the killer just trying to rub the bad manners in.

Edit: changed 'run' to 'rub'

You can't say it better, brother. Kudos

It's way more common now and you're lying if you say it isn't.

The finisher mori is definitely an issue on its own. It's less a cool thing and more a poorly thought out thing that has almost exclusively negative impacts.

It encourages slugging for 4k, takes away the ability of survivors to make dramatic endgame escapes by wiggling off, acts as a way to show off the killer's victory in the same way as teabagging at gate, and even has led to new ways to cap off toxic endgame behaviors where some killers will wait out a bleedout timer then mori at the last second.

It's been extremely negative with no real benefits except that some people think it's cool to look at. Also, I'd say the community didn't fight for and want this. A subset of the community wanted it, but a lot of the community expressed that they didn't want to try this nonsense again after the previous finisher mori disaster. And now that it's here, a lot of people still don't want it.

“Get over it and move to the next game.”

Hmmm ok. So every complaint you have (and in particular you have a lot of them) take your own advice