Slugging has gotten so much worse since the Finisher-Mori for the last survivor

Slugging for the 4k has always existed and yes it's because of hatch and certain challenges requiring a 4k, i doubt that killers slug for the 4k to see the a mori they probably have seen like a thousand times already. The really big issue here why killers are slugging more is that it actually benefits the killer more than it punishes them such as wasting time picking a survivor and getting the survivor to a hook (especially to a scourge hook that's far away) + it leaves you vulnerable to flashlight saves, pallet saves and numerous perks that activate when you hook someone.

Saying that slugging for 4k is caused by the hatch is like saying that tax evasion is caused by tax laws. There's an intended result (hatch race/paying taxes) that's being evaded because someone found a workaround to avoid doing something that's in the best interest of the most people. Just because it's possible to do doesn't mean it's good to do.

Also, the endgame mori definitely incentives slugging for 4k. And I think people already don't enjoy being slugged for 4k. It's insulting enough when a player bypasses an intended mechanic just to make their job extremely easy at the cost of the enjoyment of two other people. But when they do a preprogrammed victory dance over you at the end of it, it's like BHVR coded in a message telling people not to play survivor.

There are VERY few challenges that require a 4k. Not nearly enough to make that the reason for the rampant slugging in almost every match.

Flashlights are also not a good argument as according to the official DBD stats released on OCT 29, there are 0.22 saves per match and an average of 1.44 blinds. I don't think that is anywhere near enough for people to use flashlights as an excuse to slug. Only when there are survivors rushing around you for the save I understand, but this is more or less about slugging despite that threat being absent.

"perks that activate when you hook somebody". Killers have way more of these perks and are arguably stronger and far more meta. According to DBD besides Decisive strike there isn't a single survivor hook perk that is within the top ten used perks in the game. Even then Decisive is strictly an anti-tunnel perk, that deactivates if they do anything. This is not true for the killer stats as half of the most common perks are hook related. So killers get more of a power boost from not slugging than slugging. Slugging is a placebo fueled by anxiety and promotes an unhealthy community.

Killers with this mentality seem to play defensively against a strategy or outcomes they're unlikely to see. Its anxiety being an excuse for ruining others experience.

so people will give up more because pure luck has decided the match outcome for them as individual?

The comparison makes plenty of sense. I'll write the point again: There's an intended result (hatch race/paying taxes) that's being evaded because someone found a workaround to avoid doing something that's in the best interest of the most people.

You might notice how both things are designed to do something that's meant to benefit a larger group (hatch does this by stopping games from ending in a long boring hunt and giving the last survivor a reason to play the endgame out), but then people are evading those things.

The comparison is quite accurate. People aren't slugging for 4k because of hatch; they're doing it because they desperately want an easy kill. People don't try to evade taxes because of tax laws, they evade taxes because they want to keep their money. In both cases, blaming the mechanic doesn't get at the reason for what's happening.

That literally almost never happens though. Very few survivor players actually do that in any match I've played or watched.

Sorry for me commenting on the forum now. I just created my account on the forum, because I needed to read threads and opinions from other players to feel that my opposition to the final mori is not alone.

1. It is still enough for people to slug for the 4k but mostly it's for the hatch.
2. BHVR's stats are completely useless and it doesn't tell the whole story, it's across all MMR and we have no idea how exactly that data is collected and is mostly used a tool by BHVR to paint the narrative. Their latest stats on the killrates was a joke.
   
3. Killers hooking survivor gives them We'll Make It, Borrowed Time, 10 second haste, 10 second endurance, Dead Hard, Aftercare, Blood Rush, Breakdown, Aftercare, Breakdown, Fast track, Decisive Strike, Babysitter, Renewal, Resurgence, Guardian, Deliverance, Kindred, Kinship, Boil over, Off The Record, Reassurance Background player, Breakout and not only that but carrying a survivor reduces your movement speed making kilers more susceptible to sabo plays and flashlight saves. A lot of content creators have made videos about slugging these last few months including Otz who was part of an experiment which only included slugging and not hooking and they got better results when they slugged instead of hooking survivors. Decisive Strike is still one of the best anti-tunnel perks that survivors have even after all the nerfs it has received over the years, the only perk that i would say is better is Babysitter but you rarely see that perk in solo queue because it doesn't benefit the perk user and you have no idea of knowing if your teammates have it or not.

TL;DR of the problem here is that killers players have essentially realized that they can circumvent anti-tunnel and hook related survivor perks if they don't hook survivors because a lot of these activate when you hook survivors. BHVR has chosen to adress tunneling not as mechanic in the game but with perks so killer players have found away around said perks.

lol