Gen repair needs to get longer for real

They arent too strong, they serve their purpose. The problem is as mentioned 3 people on gens is currently the meta rn no reason to interact with anything else because gens have been nerfed that hard.

Not to mention every FUN perk to use gives no bloodpoints, meanwhile farting as killer gives you bps atm for the most part.

Ah yes omg lets make toolboxes do 5 percent only and killers will still cry.

Commodious is fine, it just buffs it for longer, at the price of the speed. I think even with the toolbox they do like 35 percent over 20 seconds, that's still a lot longer, than the conversion rate of others.

Hyperfocus + Stakeout are far stronger than commodious could even dream of being when used correctly.

Survivors should have options for items, killers need some anti-momentum basekit if anything to allow for more mistakes (Corrupt/Deadlock)

Nerfing toolboxes will not fix anyones issue lol

Fair I would like toolboxes do more interesting things, same with medkits.

We just need more creative solutions than number goes up, number goes down that's healthier for the game, I hope the devs listen to this.

I'll be honest I would 100% support a nerf to a bunch of gen regression/slowdown perks in exchange for 10 seconds longer on generators. Because it does sometimes feel like you almost HAVE to bring 2 gen perks as killer. However gens can also be kinda boring so I would like to see them bring a new Skill Check to them, just make it the Skull Merchant Drone hack but only 3 instead of 5 so and increase the chance for skill checks by 10% so it's a bit more engaging and opens up a bit more of a chance to speed up gen progression with good skill checks.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) increasing the base repair speed will not fix anything because they're not really the problem, the reasons why gens are "so fast" are because exhaustion perks and toolboxes/gen perks exists, and Unfortunately they'll never be fixed because heavily nerfing them still means that they are in the game, just look at deadhard for example, still a strong perk (not overpowered by any means, in fact, I think deadhard is the only really balanced exhaustion perk)

Thats why I run Pop, Pain Res, Dead Mans and Grim. What gen?

Generators are already taking forever to finish. Making them longer is not possible unless if we are not asking for 90% kill-rates.

IMO, the increasing hook stages by 10 seconds granting an additional 20 seconds of hook time for each survivor was unnecessary. It outpaces the increase of 10 seconds per a gen and helped tilt the scale backs towards fast gens since hooks now provide less time pressure.

No I think it was a necessary step to make this games new player experience where it should be, all the people on here need to stop gutting the game and making it more and more unforgiving for both sides.

It's about time we looked at allowing mistakes, and letting new players learn and stopping all the inaccessible bullshit like Skill check doctor, Dredge nightfall, Survivor flashlights (a dark mode for killer mains), make anti-camp visible for everyone.

What you killers need is anti-momentum, stuff to stop the game from being too one sided instead of relying on terrible unhealthy perk design that BHVR is selling us as a solution.

I'm so over blaming accessibility for newer players, when this game could get so much more love but this developer just throws stuff out without thinking half the time, and the recent survey shows it.

I've been playing so much less recently because this game does not respect casual play on either side anymore, while also taking away all of the interactivity for learning.

Sort it out.

So if you think that doing gens is the most boring thing ever, why should it take longer for survivors? When you'll actually do gens enough in your matches and gonna win, you'll up your MMR and see how miserable and hard it feels to just complete more than 3 generators against «anti-genrush» build. Try to make a goal to break 3-gen, not just finish random generator. Usually it's harder, especially on the maps where 3-gen spawns are very common and known by killers. You'll feel pressure that you don't just sitting on generator for 90 seconds but also interacting with killer who protects it.

It's boring when you know that killer tunnel someone so you just chilling because you know that you're totally safe for next 90 seconds.

10 second longer hook time, stronger sabotage with all toolboxes, whenever a survivor perk got nerfed it got either a (partly) rework or a buff to make up for it, bhvr announced better scratch mark visibility for killers but then decided against it, Survivor bots got several AI improvements, Chests got a massive buff to the point to the point where using them can actually be helpful, Skull Merchant and Chucky have been nerfed into the ground just because some Survivors don't like them.

Survivor have been getting tons of buffs this year. A nerf to survivor can't really be considered to be nerfing them "more"

I don't think increasing the gen repair time is the way to go, gens are already the worst part about this game for the Survivor gameplay, being just a glorified loading screen.

What I see as a problem is toolboxes, they can consistently make the gens very fast, reworking them into providing different effects onto gens instead of speeding them up could work.

Or finally adding a second real objective into the game, reduce the time it takes to repair gens, but add a secondary objective that isn't just a loading screen and activelly makes you interact with the map and the Killer, I have heared about the idea of fuel tanks, where gens would need to be fueled to count as finished, you would need to travel around the map to get them and carry them to generators, imagine Xenomorphs turrets but as a necesarry thing to repair generators.

First bhvr needs to properly calculate MMR, taking more into account than simply kills/escapes.

Then, for SWF groups, bump their MMR up accordingly depending upon the team sizes.

Then, at certain thresholds of high MMR, increase generator time required for all survivors. Killers at high MMR also get longer hook stage timers, and a few more pallets on the map.

SIMULTANEOUSLY, with these adjustments to gen times for high MMR games, camping, slugging, and tunneling need to be addressed in a meaningful way.

Play against a half decent SWF and gen times are nowhere near long enough for the majority of the killers in the game. Lowering the spped again from 90 secs though would annihilate solo queue. It's in a rough place at the moment as it is. You'd basically never escape unless you had 3 very good team mates which as a 100% solo queue player, I can vouch is very rare.

The maps are mostly all smaller now. Doing gens in the right order has never been more important. Even with the 8 regression event limit, so often in solo queue you have no chance to undo what silly team mates have done to 3 or 4 gen you into a tiny part of the map. The new Ormond Mine for example can spawn 4 gens extremely close together on the side opposite the main building. I've played on there 2 times as survivor and once as killer. The killer game as Pig, I could get to all 4 of the gens left in about 20 seconds total walk time and I didn't purposely stay in that area to create it. 90 seconds in solo queue is more than enough. There are enough unwinnable mismatches as it is now already.

It's only the top survivor level any change is needed. Whether that's an action debuff to 4 man SWF's or at a certain MMR rating I don't know but how that would even work? God knows!