Fire Up (still weak) :(

I've always thought Fire Up should get a change to HOW it gets tokens, rather than giving it a higher modifier. It would be great if it read something like:

-Gain a token whenever a generator is completed or you hook a unique survivor, up to a maximum of five.

This would mean it gets a higher impact on the match by kicking in earlier, as well as incentivizing not tunneling and rewarding more 'nice' gameplay.

I think the problem is that Fire Up is only bad because of the token acquisition. While I like the IDEA of a perk that sort of snowballs with generators, Fire Up doesn't do that well. It's limited by getting tokens per gen, not by the power of each token. It could still KEEP getting tokens with completed generators, I just think that it will never be good when it's locked down to *only* being that.

i'd buff it to 7%. the average gen completion is 3 gens. so you get 18% which is still worse then Brutal strength. the perk should be slightly better than brutal because you get effect later on. it's an alright perk but it won't get you hits between loops. brutal strength and fire-up would need to go in 100% range for it to be useful meta perk. right now it's "cool, this is pretty good but doesn't help me win" category[Forgot to specify on Most regular m1 killer with no synergy with the perks].

I'd say it should be 6% honestly is fine but then make it start with 1 charge, at 6% when 3 gens are done it is slightly better than Brutal and bamboozle. So basically, it starts out as a worse version of both, and then after the survivors start to hit the halfway point of the match, it starts to become better, then those perks. But combined into one slot. So you trade early power, for later power.

This is the fundamental problem with chase perks in general. In order for them to be good" they have to basically invalidate something a survivor can do in the chase, but that leads to little to no counterplay and is less fun. This is why 4 gen defense perks is the goto, because they always work, and they always save more time than any chase perk can.

This is also why they fundamentally need to do away with the gen perks, and massively buff basekit gen defense, we'd start to see a much wider variety of builds at that point.

All I said I like how it was from the ptb, plus I really don't think this perk needed to be buff even further, maybe the perk could start with a token right off the back but that's about it

Like not all perks are gonna be S tiers and probably shouldn't be (slowdowns included) perks should just be good to use while not at all useless which to me the new fire up is no longer useless but enjoyable to use

With those numbers we'd need to hard cap them though. Imagine if you had 5 stacks of Fire Up and Brutal Strength. You'd break pallets in 1 second. That's just ridiculous. Not to mention, that some killers could make this even faster.

Also, Fire Up does more than speeding up pallet breaks. It also speeds up the pick up animation and vaulting. If you'd combine Fire Up, Bamboozle, Superior Anatomy and Dark Arrogance you could achieve a vault speed of: 1.5 x 1.15 x 1.2 x 1.25 = 2.58 ~ 2.6 times the normal rate, which translates to 1.5 seconds / 2.6 = 0.58 seconds, which is just 0.08 seconds slower than a fast vault. Again, there are ways to speed this up even further (Wraith and Myers come to mind, not sure about Singularity).

Fire Up should get a different effect. Why do we need a perk, that rewards you for performing badly anyway?

Could be stronger though