Add basekit anti-slug already

Slugging are fine and not that hard to beat if you are good

The solution isn't an anti-slug mechanic. The solution is to simply have the game end when all survivors are unable to progress the game.

We do kinda like that idea but that isn't a basekit mechanic.

If adding a 2 minute base unbreakable then left with the squads who can, for practical purposes such as lights, keep the killer from picking up the survivor who will be effectively bleed out anyway but probably longer.

Here are a few ideas;

1: The Survivors can pick themselves up under certain conditions such as;

• Only two Survivors remain.
• All remaining Survivors are slugged.
• A Survivor is slugged for 60 seconds and no teammates are within 20 meters (a distance that cannot be realistically covered for potential saves, preventing lose-lose situations for the Killer like in that horrid PTB).

Managing to get up using one of these methods (not in general) would grant a brief Endurance period (to prevent Killers from simply standing over a slug and down them instantly) akin to an unhook.

2: If all Survivors are slugged or if only 2 Survivors remain and one is slugged for more than 15 seconds, the slugged Survivor(s) can choose to instantly bleedout. These deaths would count as bleedout deaths (low bp, no hook actions) for emblem, challenges and pipping purposes.

Being an ass is about practically all it XD

Laughs aside, removing these doesn't really solve the issue of the killer choosing to slug. Removing bots just lets you eat the penalty for a decent reason. Removing the finisher mori also doesn't solve issue, it'll at best dial it down a bit. Slugging is a choice people make for whatever good or bad reason.

For the first the devs would need to program in the parameters which would take awhile so who's to say they aren't doing something like that already. Another thing is that one also doesn't solve the killer slugging everyone to bleed as the condition says 2 survivors. Third is one of those removes practically any incentive for survivors to pick each other up. If the killer loses the slugged survivor for whatever reason (from chasing a flashlight to being an arse) survivors know the slug got a weaker unbreakable to up eventually. We know that we'd be content to work on a gen or hide knowing eventually the team gets back up from the corner. The endurance part wouldn't really work as the killer would probably just keep repeatedly slugging (in the cases of slugging for the 4k).

For the second has the issue of certain scenarios. First is when the killer downs someone and the other is nearby (probably with a light) or is seen/located immediately after said down. Generally the killer goes to kill the dummy who's spotted in these types of scenarios and we atleast don't blame them in these cases. Second is when survivors practically hand themselves up to die (down one, see another, down them, see another, down them, hook this one, lost 2 slugs with the last hiding). This one robs the killer of points and challenges if the last one can survive 15 seconds.

If we'd be forced to choose, we'd pick option 1, granted after adding/combining conditions.

Proooooobably yeah

In this hypothetical mechanic, there would be a decent amount of time to reach before being able to recover, time which the Killer should use to hook. Maybe multiple conditions can trigger the mechanic etc.

And quite frankly, if you manage to down an entire team at once as Oni, then they are either greatly outmatched or you have 1000 ping, either way they aren't making a comeback.

Also, those are basic ideas, building upon them and then hoping that said ideas are implemented in a healthy way is the goal.

Side-note: If you would purposefully let 3 people bleedout for 4 minutes while chasing 1 Survivor but keeping him up out of spite, then you are part of the problem that this thread (and countless others since the ill-thought-out Finisher Mori was implemented) are desperately trying to solve.

either way they aren't making a comeback.

so instead of going next maybe for better team, I am going to keep torturing some babies…

let 3 people bleedout for 4 minutes while chasing 1 Survivor but keeping him up out of spite, then you are part of the problem that this thread

Well, not my fault if system is flawed.