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Houndmaster is ridiculous
I know alot of people will hate on me and start unneeded drama over this post but i dont care. Since the release of houndmaster she is beyond broken. How do we consider her balanced especially after PTB ... Shes literally as fast as cloaked wraith, plqy a match against her and shes soooo fast without bloodlust it makes no sense. She catches you before you even get to the next tile, the dog grabs you and it takes a decade to break out of its grasp so literally no chance of you escaping. And yeah skill issue alot of people will say but i have 3+k hours on this game and shes by far the worse addition to this game. Been on the verge of deleting this game again becuase of her and the ridiculous amount of hackers / cheaters the past few weeks that BHVR does nothing about.
GET A BETTER ANTI CHEAT like this games been out for how many years now its pathetic where this games going and once i do decide to delete i dont think i'll be redownloading this game ever again.
GG gamers and ive enjoyed the years ive had on this game but its getting real close to not being worth a damn anymore.
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You have to dodge the dog between running to the next tile. If successful, you get extra time/distance on her. If not, she'll get a hit and that's it. She took extra steps just to get that hit when compared to Wraith, Huntress, Myers, Alien. The dog's grasp should be strong, because you can stun him with a pallet or have a teammate kick him, or even go behind a single obstacle that he can't be angled around. She just seems like a killer like Deathslinger, Pinhead, or Singularity who have to hit survivors with their power over and over to get anything from it. I barely see her, and it's never a hard match against her. If you're struggling against such a killer with thousands of hours of play, you have squandered that play time. I know because I have friends with more hours than you who don't know what they're doing. "We're going against Freddy or Legion, or a killer with no perks or add-ons? Let's just give them a free 4k." is basically the experience. And this is why I say: The most skill-intensive, game knowledge-intensive thing you can do in this game is to play killer and get good with it. It literally changes how you see and play the game, for better or for worse.
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This killer is bad, just camp a pallet if she is sending the dog, you drop the pallet and you stun the dog if he catches you, I'm really surprised people haven't discovered this yet
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"How do we consider her balanced especially after PTB".
She released bugged as hell, and BHVR gave her a bunch of buffs before going on vacation. I very much doubt they consider her to be fine tuned. They just wanted to ensure she wasn't bad upon release, seeing as they wouldn't be there to buff her.
My guess is that the devs are now looking at her kit and preparing to buff and nerf different things, depending on what is too strong and what is weak within her kit.
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Dodging the dog is easy thats not the problem, once in awhile i do get hit by the dog and unless your teammate is there to get rid of the dog biting you shes getting a hit no matter what is what i was complaining about. And 2ndly yall say shes easy... you prob play against crappy players then. If someone whos good at houndmaster plays against you, she will crush you i promise you that lol saying just stand at pallet is best way to founter her is pathetic input on this. And if you havent noticed her speed just in normal chase then you simply dont play against her often enough. 3rdly corners are not safe either the killer can send dog out then take control of dog a second time and send it in another direction as well and if you play on pc it takes literally 2 seconds so unless you know its coming and have good timing / not lagging yes you can dodge but you wont do that 100% of the time and if you wanna act like you do then your a liar. 4thly she doesnt use her power constantly like you say she does and if your games she does then no wonder why she sucks cuz dog hold and her hitting you simply puts you in deep wound and doing it a 2nd time to get the down would waste alot of time for the killer and would be pretty time consuming imo. Lol you tryna low blow me saying ive wasted my time then so have you if your MMR is too low to play against actual good killers in the game lol. Also i play killer just as much as i do survivor lol so nothing you stated helped and more or less just sounded like your tooting your own horn lol but alright buddy surprised you got upvotes from nonsense.
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Your MMR must be low too. Obviously you havent played against a good houndmaster either lol so your knowledge "just camp a pallet" is useless and overall worthless lmao so sad. Was hoping id get better inputs on this but i guess not.
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Now this was best reply yet. I agree i dont think shes like an amazing killer but theres definitely some bs going on with her and definitely needs work imo. My biggest issue is the dog bite lasts forever and if anything they should add a wiggle bar against the dog just like when killers holding you then her base movement speed is definitely not correct 9 times outta 10 shes zooming across the map against me without bloodlust or her following the dog trail which gives her what a 5% haste or some close to that.
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Her power is balanced out by the fact that she's utterly awful to play as, even more clunky than the twins. Bonus points if you send her to a map with multiple floors, you can watch the dog struggle to comprehend what 'elevation' is.
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She is very inconsistent in terms of bugs and unintended features, but she is in no way busted. Like others have said and its quite obvious, u have to dodge the dog. Her search command which gives her a speed boost to a select location only is perfectly balanced and most times bugs out disadvantaging the killer. The dog grab duration is pretty fair since ur in control and essentially are just slowed, go to a pallet and wait to either stun both the killer and the dog or just the dog. Cheating is something that has become quite an issue lately but theres nothing we can do abt that but report the player. In all, u should NOT delete DBD and instead view her kit on dbd wiki or even play the killer yourself, she actually has a skill ceilin. I myself main her despite her buggy release, and i find it for the most part fun on both sides regardless of how rare the killer is anyway : )
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That is a very common and obvious strategy to completely counter the dog and even waste time making the killer respect a pallet in fear of wasting more time from both getting stunned. If ur grabbed in the middle of nowhere, thats kinda on u
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I've played her a bit the past few days to get the associated trophies for her. One game you'll finish thinking that she's a really good killer, then the next you'll play on a certain map like Lery's or something against better survivors, the dog will barely function, and you'll be ripping your hair out! The dog is very inconsistent and I'm sure there'll be more tweaks in the not so distant future.
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Ive heard about the bugs but ive yet to see the killer have issues. Ive played as her and didnt experience any issues either. Easy 4k every match i played her only 8 times but have won all of them. 3 of which survivors just gave up and let me kill them so wasnt fun
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So ive heard her being buggy but ive not experience any issues myself playing her or seen others have issues. Like ove said in replies i know to dodge the dog and 9 times outta 10 dodging is easy but once in awhile i get hit by the dog. And i stated that i know her search command gives her speed boost when on the trail which isnt my issue with her the duration of the dog hold is ridiculous in my opinion you dont have to agree but there should be a woggle factor or something to make escaping more possible. And the pallet tip is obvious and not very good input... seems no one else has any good advice besides dodge dog and camp pallets lol boring. And if you play a GOOD Houndmaster dodging the dog and camping pallets wont save you. So i disagree with yall and just seems ive played against better houndmaster than the handful of players whom commented. Obviously players who suck at houndmaster are extremely easy to beat and not much of a match but the good players will crush even the pro players so i guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
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So ive heard her being buggy but ive not experience any issues myself playing her or seen others have issues.
I have like 20+ videos I could show you on how buggy she still is with her dog. Its terrible.
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I've played probably about 10 games with her. The dog sometimes just disappears for ages and refuses to come back from scouting, sometimes it's impossible to send it out scouting where you want as you just either can't select where you want or it just moves to somewhere 10 metres in front of you for no apparent reason as you send the dog out. And as has already been pointed out, on multifloor maps, it just sometimes makes the dog completely lose its mind! Also have seen it send to chase and just do nothing at all.
Some games it can be a compete mess to play. Whether that's caused by ping or something server related, I don't know.
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Shes kinda like clown in a few ways. 1: her power involves speeding herself or slowing down survivors 2: pallets are the main thing that help you in a chase. 3: she lacks map pressure like clown but slight less because she can send the dog to scare some people away from objectives before reaching it. 4: because the gens fly while playing as her , the houndmaster players verrrrry often resort to hard tunneling right off the hooks or slugging the team to win. Otherwise she has one of the most busted "just leave" powers that ive seen so many people die to while t bagging at gates.
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Thats something so small though, she already can't get her dog back sometimes without having to stand still for a second. The duration of dog grab is balanced its also easy to remove. I also almost always see survivors camp pallets when im holding my chase command, because they know to just eat the dog hit and waste time on the pallet since they know they can just stun him and run away. There really is no other counterplay accept to play really tight angles on redirect command and then w key. For context i am P40 on her rn, and i consider myself until i see better the self proclaimed #1 Houndmaster player. Self proclaimed, so no bs abt it but just based off other people who played her the few times I've seen her, they were all terrible.
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There is very poor chase ai when it comes to wall accents on in door maps. Shes insanely weak on rpd because every single wall has a pillar sticking out of it
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Nah, in my opinion it's fine the way she is, maybe just increase the power's cooldown a little.I've played against her several times and haven't seen any problems, dodging the dog isn't that difficult, and playing against her on pallets is the same as playing against a Huntress/Alien/Nemesis, etc.I would say it's even easier, because there's a trick that a lot of people don't know, but in some safe pallets you just have to wait for her to throw the dog first and then you drop the pallet, it's not that difficult... And I think the duration of the dog's grab is fair, considering that it's quite difficult to use the dog, especially in some loops.
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I mean yeah, she is ridiculous, but not in the way you wrote, she is ridiculously bad.
I was the one who said "she is in the good spot" after buffs, but hell, I never overrated anything in this game THAT much. It took one week to survivors to understand how to play against her and I don't think I won a single match with her since then (I play for hooks, no hardcore tunneling or sweating, just enjoying my chases).
In best of the best case scenarios she is low B tier killer against good survivors. But yeah, she is probably pub stomper against Sables who can't watch behind in chase for their life and drop pallet instantly. But let's be honest, who is not pub stomper against these players?2
