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Reportable
In my last match, i've went against a Bully squad and i literally could not a hook survivor because of Flashbang and apparently you can blind the killer while the survivor is being dragged out of the locker. Which is something that i thought that BHVR patched out. as soon as this happened like 3-4 times, i basically gave up but the thing is they refused to do gens and just wanted to bully me. My question is it reportable to refuse to do gens when the killer has given up and is saying the N-word in the chat reportable as well?
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Not doing Gens is holding the game hostage. But being AFK (what you did) is also reportable and you were also not participating in regular gameplay, so it would be a bit hypocritical to complain, but you do you I guess.
When it comes to Locker Saves - this only applies if the Killer pulls the Survivor out of the Locker. If the Survivor leaves the Locker and the Killer grabs them, then Flashlight- and Flashbang-Saves are possible. (It does not make sense IMO, but this is what the Devs went for)
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Racial slurs are definitely reportable and chats are auto logged.
Not doing gens at all, never touching them, is reportable, but the line is pretty steep and you'd need video.
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Not doing gens reportable?
Yes, that goes under the "refusing to participate in regular gameplay" category.
Saying N-word?
The N-word is commonly considered a slur and an insult, therefore reportable under "Insults".
Why hide chat, you were probably not nice yourself?
Probably, but that's supurfluous to OP's question.
Being AFK
He didn't say he went AFK, and his score at the end seems to be against that assumption. You don't get 18k BP from being AFK.
BHVR doesn't need footage, if enough people report a player(s) enough times for a particular reason.
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He didn't say he went AFK, and his score at the end seems to be against that assumption. You don't get 18k BP from being AFK.
OP said they have given up and then the survs didnt do any gens so… seems like it both sides didnt do anything to progress the Game…
BHVR doesn't need footage, if enough people report a player(s) enough times for a particular reason.thats not true as far as i am aware, do you have a source for that? It’s been stated by BHVR again and again that they need video footage for Most offenses (except chat abuse as Chat logs get saved with an in-game Report)
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Source?
I do not have a source at hand, but it's part of their automated system. Too many reports of the same kind, from different people, against the same player, results in a ping to mods to check them out.
Their internal systems on how they check your behavior is of course secret, but I've had successful messages ingame telling me people have been actioned for various reportable reasons, and I've never reported anybody on these forums with footage or screencaps.
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how do they leave if nobody do gen ?
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"Not sure why you hide the Chat, you probably were not nice yourself?"
There is no excuse for someone using that slur against another player regardless of what they wrote. Now, if the OP was using slurs too well they should be up for a ban too.
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I mean, from what was written we dont even know if the other side said the N-word. Thing is, if OP is hiding chat, OP wants to hide what they said. Because they apparently have no issue with editing their pics, so the only reason to hide the chat would be to not be nice themselves.
I agree that slurs should not be tolerated. And I dont see this as an excuse. But I know very well that it also can happen that both sides are doing that.
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That's incorrect, we need evidence in order to take action against a player and for things in game it must be video, screenshots are very easily edited and we do not accept those. Nobody is banned on number of reports.
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Then what's the point of the ingame report system, if it does nothing?
You're telling me there's no moderation getting informed of people getting reported? Even for cheating? Holding the game hostage? Working with the Killer?
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The in-game system will confirm the match took place
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Okay, so only chat-related reports will be actioned without forum involvement? Like in OP, somebody using slurs?
I got a message saying my report about cheating was actioned, I guess that was simply because somebody else had reported it on here?I just want to be entirely sure I understand, so unless I get footage on forums, there's no point in me reporting anything except chat-related things?
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you do not post the footage here on the Forums, you create an additional player report ticket to BHVRs support where you attach the video (or better a link to the video eg uploaded as unlisted on YouTube)
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Then what's the point of the ingame report system, if it does nothing?
If you fire off an email to support, even with attached video showing someone blatantly cheating, they have to know which match that was tied to. They could probably figure out which one it was and who to ban, given enough digging (and assuming you put enough evidence in the video) but it probably makes it 100x easier if you file a report so they can tie them together, to the point where if you do it the wrong way, they probably won't bother looking at it.
Could the system be better? Absolutely. But if you're sending someone a video, then clicking a "Report" button ahead of time is not the pain point here.
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For the reports that you got notice to, I would like to know myself
You understand my curious confusion, I hope. That somebody else went through the trouble of getting footage and reporting it, must be the only logical answer, but that I somehow still got a notice about it.
For context, it was an incredibly obvious hacker playing as Huntress. Teleporting around the map, instantly throwing all her hachets in one go (through walls) and hooking everybody either instantly or speeding around the map with them on her back. I have never seen a more clear case of hacking.0 -
yeah I understand that and thats hey I want to See an answer to that too. Had a similar case just not obvious but subtle cheating.. I hope it’s not a bug where you get the Info even though nothing was done…
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Flashbang/cracker saves will work off of normal locker pulls which is a huge oversight. At least they can't do it for 15 mins in a row like flashlights still very annoying.
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They send out an auto-message to everyone who reported a person that got banned that way everyone involved will know action was taken. Even if it wasn't you specially who had good enough evidence you will still get a message if you send a report.
I didn't know this applied to just endgame reports though which is neat.
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yes, you get a feedback report to show your report has been actioned, that's not necessarily that it's a ban - but the action has taken place, report dealt with basically. And it could well mean that someone else reported but with evidence.
You are correct re chat offences, as we have the logs so we have no need of further evidence.
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Here is what they were saying in chat if anybody is interested.
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So this basically just confirms that the in-game report system actually does nothing? You are saying the in-game system confirms the match took place, do you not have a record of match history at all? Like, is there no table that stores match history like, what map was played, and what perks were used and that sort of thing?
How else are you all getting data around kill rates, and perk usage rates and everything? There must be some kind of record of those types of things.
I would suggest that you all need to make some kind of in-game announcement explaining that the in-game report system, without submitting a ticket with video evidence does nothing ,because up until this point ,a lot of us believed that at least reporting people did something.
At this point i guess i have to record every single match i play.
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You only have to record a brief video displaying something that goes against their TOS. Nothing more. Send it in. Ingame report. Done.
I do agree though - The ingame report system needs to have more of an impact. To be updated with better features. It'll help the community do their part to taking action when something needs it.
Also - sidenote :p THUMBS UP should do something. lol. At this point I will even take 5 bloodpoints for a thumbs up LOL
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Alright, thank you for the clarification.
Pretty much what I was thinking.
I've reported a lot of different people for many varied reasons, often working with Killer, but I guess it didn't matter now, as I wasn't reporting the case with video evidence.😞
RIP.
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But the point is, nowhere in the game does it actually say this is necessary.
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I agree with your point 100% :)
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As someone who has recorded and reported many instances of killers and survivors working together, I have yet to receive a single notification of action being taken. So I honestly wouldn't bother reporting that. It's against the rules but I think it's less of a priority to Support than most other stuff
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Perhaps, but the downfall of anything starts with the little things.
If there's rules against it, but it's not being enforced, what's the point of having such rules at all?
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The least enjoyable aspects of this game are the community.
They get a four man out and turn around to verbally abuse you.
Nice job people in charge.
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A little bit off topic but I want to take the opportunity: The report system is extremely misleading and not friendly for beginners. Many players - even average one's - still think it is enough to report them ingame. But you also have to make a ticket with either a video or screenshots. Then, it is extremly frustrating that you basically need to record every match just in case there could be a cheater - then uploading. A few days ago, I did a Myers daily and faced a cheater: I chased him first - it was a Dwight. He felt kinda sus because he won every 50/50 on tall loops and whenever I had no line of sight, it felt like he made more distance. Then, I left him and downed a Jake. When I tried to hook him, I wasn't able to hook because the game though someone is sabotaging the hook. This was the proof for me that something wasn't right and in the endgame chat the Jake agreed that someone was cheating. Dwight was also not playing on steam and had typical perks that cheaters like to use to make them less sus. Luckily, a program records every dbd session and I had a proof but imagine I hadn't had this program.
I know you said a while ago a replay system is not possible but is there no other way to make it easier for us to report players? Or at least, the report system needs more advices like a link to the ticket or helpful tools to record a match. Something that also helps these players and let them know what they have to do when reporting a player.
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While AFK is reportable, you aslo have to take into account the circumstances. The killer was not skilled enough to deal with the survivors and the survivors were not progressing the game on their end. The game was stagnant even before they went afk. It could of continued like that until the game auto ended.
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Not going to lie i just tried to play 1v4 as killer. Key word is tried. I had nothing but p100 swf bully squads round, after round, after round. All flashbangs n flashlights all gen rushing, you were lucky to even hit one down but i swear as i stood there ontop of the person ready to pick them up, to my right on the hill with the closest hook, alredy someone sitting there with a toolbox, to my left, alredy another person crouching around the wall with a flashbang and behind me, nic cage screaming with a flashlight. She just hit the floor and they are on u like that. 1v4 is not worth playing while 2v8 is on because all the casual players are in 2v8, leaving the sweatiest survivor swf bully squads for 1v4 so they can still bring their pile of advantages. Id wait for 2v8 to end before going back to 1v4.
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A few days ago, I did a Myers daily and faced a cheater: I chased him first - it was a Dwight. He felt kinda sus because he won every 50/50 on tall loops and whenever I had no line of sight, it felt like he made more distance
Aura reading perks, such as Weave Attunement, can reveal them. You can then record it, and get them banned. This video is a recent example where I encountered exactly what you describe:
One of the many reasons the current report system sucks is because without Weave Attunement I would not have had such clear evidence - there is a massive need for some kind of replay system that lets you play back the match from different angles. Imagine the video playing out without any aura reading - sure, it would look suspicious, but possibly not suspicious enough to be clear evidence of cheating.2 -
Yes, but even the worst Killer will get to the point where the Survivors have nothing left to work with, which would force the Survivors to actually do Gens if they want to escape. You can be the best Looper, but if there are no Pallets left, you will go down against any Killer (even if it takes long).
Not defending the Behavior of the Survivors here, they were holding the game hostage, as I have written before, but the Killer also did not anything to progress the game.
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"It's your fault you were being bullied, you were allowing it by not playing along to their bullying and not letting them bully you more by trying to play the match, no matter how miserable it was making you!"
OK, got it. No wonder the player rate for the game is dropping.
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I mean, I hope you are against the Devs doing something against Survivors Going Next. Since your argument can easily be used for the other side.
Let alone that nowadays people call everything "bullying", even if it is just being good at looping. You cannot really bully Killers anymore.
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I actually am because BHVR aren't addressing the root of the Go Next issue, which is a) communication abuse making Survivors extremely against playing the game, b) SWF squads making the SoloQ survivors' matches absolutely hellish (I have seen enough SWF ganging up on SoloQ survivors, not cooperating with them because they're not the part of the "Cool Kids Club" or just trashing them in the endgame chat).
You can punish people for not staying in the game all you want, but if you do nothing about the reasons why people hate to stay in the game, if you insist on them playing a game that makes them feel miserable, you won't fix anything. They will either come up with new ways not to cooperate with you, or just leave to play other games. "Endure this one and hope that the next one will be better" is not the best piece of advice for players.
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Sorry you had to deal with that slur and the sexual innuendos post game chat, as well as the same old stereotyped rhetoric from users on the forums.
It's become almost pointless to engage in/post certain topics as the replies almost seem to be pre-determined at this point with how predictable and robotic they have become.
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The whole actioned response only means that your report was looked at. It doesn't mean anyone was punished. It says the appropriate action was taken. Sometimes that action literally means to disregard the report.
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