how the turn tables turn if that’s the case. Fingers crossed they add it into the match menu once loaded in , instead of the pre-game lobby and save everyone the headache.

It should be be in the menu once the match has started or don’t bother adding it at all IMO because you’re just going to exacerbate lobby dodging and queue times. Survivors already talk tons of trash about other survivors load outs as is. Killers will actually get nothing but “pure sweat builds” if other survivors can see in lobby. I think it will be a bad call to add it to anything but in game menu once the match has already started.

In my opinion, some players are too picky. I remember a match where I played against a Sologroup and Feng with SB, DS (two metaperks) and then CoH and Overzealous (two niche perks) was the best player in this match. She made good plays and just played well while the other ones with more meta builds played rather "decent". I know, good perks can help you and change the game but the best perks in the game does not help you when you just play poorly. Therefore, just because someone has four niche perks doesn't mean this one will be a weak player. Of cause, there are exceptions where a SoloQ teammate has a rather selfish perk like Left Behin or Solo Survivor and this might be a reason to dodge but then I think it is more a problem of the perk and not of the the feature (selfish perks should get a rework anyway into more helpful teammates perks for SoloQ). However, I think despite the chance of seeing more lobby dodges, I believe the feature will more help than hurt because I find myself often in a situation where I wish I know which perk my teammates had - e.g. someone gets slugged but has UB and someone goes for the healing instead of sitting on the gen (sure you can tell it based on the healing speed but not many players do this) or someone has Deli and it is better to leave the unhook to them or to take the aggro of the killer when the Deli user is chased first.

I think we should see our teammates' perk during the loading screen since the loading screen is the most boring moment before the game starts and then we can see which perks my teammates have. They can still show us the tips on the bottom even though they become useless once you know the basics. If this is not possible - for what ever reason - then we should see out teammates perk when pressing Escape (where we can see our perks). Both would prevent a situation where a survivor had the option to dodge. Sure, someone can still dc or give up on hook when they see something they don't like but then this player gets punished by the upcoming "Go Next"-Prevention-System.

In the end, the developers should give it a try. They can see the statistics and tell if more dodges happens when seeing teammates perks. If it happens, okay remove the feature we tried or add a feature that prevents players from dodging a lobby too many times.

This is something that will greatly help reduce the gap between solo and swf, which is good for balance It’s also worth noting that this was implemented in the mobile version and did not cause lobby evasion, so I think at least for a test they should run this

I don't really need it in lobby, just make it you can see it during the game when you open menu (you can see your build there now).

or even better show it during loading screen too

We're personally adamant that loadouts shouldn't be seen in the pre trial lobby. If they really want to show perks for the team then we agree with the above people to put it in the pause menu. As a bonus if the "go next" system works well then this way will allow people to see each other's perks and not spite quit for free.

The little qol for new characters is nice though.

Showing perks in the lobby? Bad idea.

Showing perks in the trial? Acceptable.

Players must be threatened with DC penalties to avoid lobby dodging forcing players to run meta perks, or suffer long queue times. I think I should know that my teammate has sole survivor … in the trial itself. How they could make that work from a UI perspective, I don’t know.

I like this approach as well. There are better ways for the game to inform your teammates that you have certain perks. The game already lets you know if certain perks are in play, like when you get unhooked by someone running We'll Make It. Why not code something similar for Deli? They could also implement things like highlighting lockers for Head On plays if they wanted.

Maybe it would be OK to show perks on the pause screen (I'm not 100% convinced…) but I'm definitely against showing them in the lobby. I honestly don't care what perks my teammates are running. Even if I get a baby David running No Mither because they think it's good, I'm more grumpy at the perk being rubbish than I am at him for running it. Come to think of it, I don't know why there are so many Survivor tome challenges and achievements that force you to throw multiple games just to achieve them. If we want to improve Solo Q, why don't we talk about those?

I think trying to bring Solo up to a SWF on comms level could potentially be a mistake. I worry it would lead to sweatier games overall and I don't think the game was ever designed with that level of co-ordination in mind.

I completely agree. You don't have to show them in the lobby, but IN GAME you should 100% see all of your teammates perks. If someone really wants to d/c upon seeing those, then let them. Put this feature in the game for new people please.

It seems like almost all good, but the amount of lobby dodging I can foresee would cancel all of the positive out.

A person trying to run a fun/experimental build might have a hard time actually getting into a match.

I think they should try it out and see how it works. DBD mobile did it for years, so im assuming that it works somehow.

Some people will dodge for the oddest reasons and they will always be there. But to find out how much of an issue it really is, we need to test it out.

I think its one of the things survivors want to close the swfgap. But its like with comms. You cant just interact with randoms as you do with friends.

Remember when they did that trial for hiding prestige? It can't hurt to maybe trial this as well. If they get too much lobby dodging then they can trial visibility in match and see how that goes? Can't hurt to try

Bond =people initially sandbag with this perk. I never once do not experience anyone who do not use this perk correctly only to sabotage their teamates , running to injure people, running to killer to gens thst needs to be out asap for 3 gen avoidance. They are way worst than distortion users by margins.

Sprint burst= used usually with fixated and urban where someone can be on the hook, one person on chase and other is already injured or doing a gen far away from said sprint burst user which leave it up to them to unhook causes a hook person to go 2nd stage. Yes believe it or not it still happens.

That’s a nice solo build you got there 😎

I feel it should be available once you get into the match, so on the "pause" menu + maybe shown during the start-of-match spin. In a perfect world I'd love to see it in the lobby too, but anything that might cause a meaningful amount of dodging isn't something I want at all as long as backfill is as goofy as it is.

I'd be happy with the game just showing perks determined to be relevant when they're something to think about. Show the slugged guy has Unbreakable/is in an Exponential boon, show who has inactive Deliverance with no hooks when someone gets put on the hook (so you can try to let them get the save), show who has active Deliverance while they're hooked and can use it. That sorta thing.

But just making the perks easy to quickly check for yourself is probably a more future-proof solution that causes less icons to pop up on the screen.

It will affect lobby dodging, there really is no 'if' about it.

It's a made up problem to deny QoL improvements under the guise of pretending to act in the best interests of survivors

If somebody wants to dodge because they hate my birds perks then good riddance.

People hyperfocus on the negatives without considering the big picture.

They were gonna kill themselves on hook and ruin the match anyways.