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Kaneki is not a "Killer" (No longer an issue, didn't know about the interview with PS.)
Why on Earth is Kaneki on the Killer roster, when there are far more horrible people in Tokyo Ghoul? Characters such as Eto, Takizawa OR Yamori are ACTUAL killers who would fit the bill. I won't deny that Kaneki has his "moments" but those are too far between. No one who actually knows Tokyo Ghoul would describe Kaneki as a "Killer" let alone put him in the game instead of the 3 earlier mentioned characters. This would be the same as putting Denji from Chainsaw Man to the game and calling him a Killer just because he has fun ripping Devils to shreds.
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Does this answer your question?
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While I know literally less than nothing about Tokyo Ghoul… I am pretty sure the license holders have the highest say here and they agreed to choose Kaneki over the others.. so the owners (and I guess also creators) of these characters think Kaneki is the right pick here..
maybe it’s more to do with recognizability and representing Tokyo Ghoul as a whole.And/or maybe the other killers will be coming as legendary skins for either Kaneki or possibly other original killers!
edit: well Hoodied provided the actual official answer. Not a Fan of this ‚alternative Universe Charakters‘ myself but it is what it is and the owners agreed to it… and the above still applies5 -
We literally have killers currently who are "not killers" by their nature and don't want to be doing what they are doing. Look into the lore of wraith for example. So it stands to reason that it can happen again.
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It was probably for marketing purposes, I dont know a thing about Tokyo Ghoul but I can say that he is a face that I can recognize.
Also as @Reinami mentioned, we have several killers who are sort of forced to do the Entitys bidding, and these killers are usually deformed or are in some sort of pain. From what I can tell he fits in this category of characters, and its cool that he's the first licensed character of that nature.
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In all fairness, this is Kaneki mid-fight with Yamori. Not after the fight, where he leaves Yamori alive enough for Juuzou to finish him off, not where he fights Ayato and breaks exactly half of his bones, and way before his Cochlea raid. He's literally just been tortured, watched Yamori kill a mother and child (people who he's being tortured specifically to protect, btw), experiencing ghoul hunger which is so bad it drives him to nearly kill Hide before Touka intervenes - I don't think it's too far of a stretch to say that this specific Kaneki is easy for the entity to manipulate.
Him riding the line between messiah and monster is why I find his character so fascinating, and while I wish he was a survivor (because then we could have Eto or even Arima as the killer hello) I don't think it's a stretch to say that taking Kaneki at one of those "moments" and keeping him that way forever allows him to fit the bill of being a killer.
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These killers still are more suited to be killers than survivors though. Wraith may have been not your typical Killer before but he snapped and still resorted to violence - it’s also mentioned in his tome story that his desire for revenge overpowered his will to help others iirc.
they may not want to kill for the Entity but they still need to bring in the ‚potential‘ to be killers. This Kaneki seems to be someone that already was Killer material before the Entity grabbed him.
But yeah, BHVR is definitley trying to show a greater diversity within their characters and especially recently making the difference between survivors and killers more vague.0 -
Oh, I didn't even know about this interview. Seems they have justified it well after all. Here's the link:
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Those other characters may have fit the maliciousness of a Killer better, but none of them are as marketable as the main character.
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An unfortunate truth.
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I don't find it difficult at all to believe Kaneki is the killer. After being tortured he was never the same, and he never dealt with that trauma. He is the definition of mentally and emotionally unstable.
The state he's in, in terms of the game, is likely something similar to his kakuja state. In that state he's laughing and reveling in the violence he's committing, and in the game he's likely also starving 24/7 regardless of how much he eats. It's a recipe for disaster, one easily manipulated by the entity as it pleases.
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You know when I saw he was the killer I said to myself "I thought he was the good guy?" I haven't read far in the manga but then it kinda enter the thought of the entity manipulates killer's minds so maybe the entity is making him view the survivors as a threat? It's still cool because ghouls are also have a strong endurance where some weapons just don't do much to them so if he were a survivor someone like Hag basically wouldn't be doing much to him let alone a meat hook so it is cool that they chose to change it up.
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If I had to guess, the Entity is manipulating Kaneki at his lowest point into perceiving every survivor as a threat. Perhaps he thinks they're all the ghouls who tortured him to insanity in the first place, similar to how the Deathslinger sees every survivor as the people who backstabbed and manipulated him.
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I mean: Artist, Wraith as you mentioned, Deathslinger in a way (the Entity manipulates him to see people who wronged him instead of survivors), etc.
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Because BHVR went creatively bankrupt and are clutching at straws that are popular licenses. It doesn't matter if Kaneki doesn't make sense as a Killer or that adding an anime character from an action genre into a gory horror game disrupts the tone. It doesn't matter that licensed chapters are unreliable because licensed Killers and Survivors can get removed from the store when the license is called off. All BHVR knows is that Kaneki is popular and people will pay money to play as him.
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I’m beginning to see that now. Plus when they’re out of ideas they make the killer a dash or “pounce” killer. They’re not even creative with it like blight anymore. After Wesker and Chucky we shouldn’t see anymore of these copy pasted styles, but when in doubt. Dash it out!
Even Wesker’s dash should have been more akin to RE:5 where he kinda distorts in and out of your view. Instead it’s just a straightforward pounce.
If MvC3 could implement that in Wesker’s character then these devs could too.1 -
Cause the devs though altering a licensed character for no reason would be a cool idea. But its not. Basically the worst thing they could have done with this. But I guess they just wanted to provoke the anime community.
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It became particularly obvious when they fumbled the Casting of Frank Stone. In addition to hurrying the game development, they didn't follow up with adding Frank Stone as a Killer in the game as well as introducing new survivors: even though the game literally created the premise for the new original Killer joining the cast. It was the most glaring example of failed marketing, poor planning, and lack of direction.
Also, I feel like leaning towards dashing Killers shows that BHVR knows that low-mobility Killers are having a horrible time right now. They can't put any other mechanic because they know the new Killer will suffer from it and won't get picked often: which is why all their recent licensed Killers come out with dashes installed (of course, that doesn't stop BHBR from nerfing them to the ground when a new shiny licensed Killer comes out).
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