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Nerf Claudette
Her skin, hair, AND jacket being all dark, earthen tones makes her significantly better at stealth play, making her the only survivor who has a legit full bonus over others. My last four games have had at least 2 Claudettes in her dark clothes with urban evasion, and it is to the point I am just quitting when I see people do this, or tunneling them, just because we all know EXACTLY why they run Claudette.
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Blendette is the best killer
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She's already been nerfed and so have maps, if you can't find her get better or play her at red ranks and watch killers find you constantly. You can play Myers, Doctor, Pig, Trapper, Hag, Spirit, Nurse, Wraith etc.
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Lighten up displayer, but i don't think there is a need for it after changes really.
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All I hear is a whiny survivor. Probably one who plays Claudette. Nothing you said was relevant. Only killers need good eye sight, clearly.
But no, the problem isn't that I cannot find her, but that she is objectively stronger than other survivors simply for her color scheme. I built up David as a survivor when I started, and now I am seeing the mistake I made, because there is a character who is objectively stronger, despite survivors only being skins. A skin should never make someone stronger. Only 3 maps are not strong advantages for her, and those three simply do not have people who have advantages. She is the only one with the skin to win advantage.
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All I see are the typical whiny excuses and insults from a killer main when they can't refute what was said
I main killer, Spirit to be exact and I've got no issue usually finding Claudette's or Meg's or anyone else except for the occasional P3 Quentin because there's hardly any of them out there.
How do I do it, well I use my brain, my eyes I look for moving terrain ie grass/corn etc, outlines that don't belong. I use my ears to listen for breathing or the sound of said moving terrain. I listen for crows being disturbed close to me that I know haven't been disturbed by me.
Most of the time i find them and the ones I don't find deserved to get away and I'll usually find them later and quite often get them. You claim you started as David but then say you can't find her, so obviously you're a whiny killer main that doesn't want to get better.
She was already nerfed as far as outfits go to make it easier because of whiny people like you, maps have been nerfed cough swamp cough. Just admit it that you want her to be given the whitewash treatment so you won't have to work hard at finding her.
It's not like there isn't anti stealth perks or killers that make her camo useless or that good killers don't have an issue finding her. The issue is that you just don't want to improve at facing her and instead want an easier game.
Again level her up, get her to P3 and get her to rank 1 and stay there against good killers and then when they find you constantly come here and whine she's too hard to find.
Oh and when I do play Claudette which is rarely because all you whiny killers insta dodge even bright cosmetic ones. I play her Vigo's apprentice outfit and I can still sneak around and avoid most of you because you refuse to actually look and use your ears.
I've got a challenge for you, get a kyf together and get Zhubat, or Marth, or any good killer out there, pick your best map and pick your best Claudette outfit. When they absolutely destroy you because they know how to play then come here and admit you're the problem.
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I am a survivor main. xD You didn't even read what was said. The problem is that she is stronger than other survivors for nothing but having darker skin and clothes. You kinda just ruined any chance of being taken seriously by not reading basic #########.
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I said that she has an advantage over OTHER SURVIVORS, dumbshit. I am upset that there are so many P3 Claudettes who have distinct advantages. But hey. Keep using that big brain of yours to project your point and ignore others, despite never once addressing the valid and stated issue at hand, which is not that I cannot find them, but that she has an advantage over other survivors.
I swear, ######### idiots like you are why nothing ever gets better. No one wants to hear your non-sequiturs. One thing in that giant ass post of yours is even close to relevant, and everything else is just you bragging that you think you are good.
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It is asked since release.
But you know...
...would riot.
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It's almost as if selective ignorance is in play by you both since they've already nerfed he darker outfits.
Hmmn then what's that below where you explicitly state that you "I am just quitting when I see people do this, or tunneling them, just because we all know EXACTLY why they run Claudette."
I didn't know you as a survivor could tunnel your fellow Claudette's or would quit just because you saw one.
You couldn't even keep your story straight on the same page. I mean how hard is it to actually try and keep your story straight when it's on the same page
Oh and you just showed who can't be taken seriously on this forum and it only took you a few posts on the same page.
You obviously want the easier game mode so you should queue up for this mode below instead.
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Yeah, this is exactly the kind of stupidity I expect from you. Keep ranting and whining and ignoring the point. Gonna stop bothering to give full explanations when you speak, all you do is say what you want, regardless of the points made.
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Here. Let me dumb it down for you, since you have trouble with basic thought.
Point: Claudette is inherently better at stealth than any other survivor due to her color palette.
You: HUR DER. *Shits self* I CAN FIND HER!
Okay, I get you can find her. That is not relevant. There are perks and abilities that let you find people. That is not relevant. What is being discussed is that one character has an advantage for no reason. Anyone finding a Claudette doesn't change that my last six games have had 1-2 Claudettes with Urban Evasion. Never anyone else with Urban Evasion, not even Nea. Always Claudettes. She has an advantage, and that is separate from your capacity to find her or not. This is why I do not take you seriously. Nothing you have said is relevant. It is pointless bragging about your ability to find a survivor or use a perk. No one cares. Sorry, I know I used words with three syllables, but I hope you can make it through.
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@powerbats "It's almost as if selective ignorance is in play by you both since they've already nerfed he darker outfits."
We are talking about her base skin set and her Prestige one who both never got changed.
Not the original black Left4Dead black shirt, you know, the one without the red strips they added later, because it was utterly bullshit how they could blend in plain sight with it.
You wouldn't want to move the goal post, didn't you ?
Edit: Also nice version of the "How do you do" meme, didn't knew this one.
Saved it btw :)
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@NathanExplosion Bats is just kind of an idiot. He isn't even addressing the point being made, and is instead using it as a discussion of skill. Not once has he actually addressed the issue that Claudette is darker, and that gives her an advantage on all but three maps. Instead, he uses it as a chance to insult others. He is a great representative of the community. Nothing but toxic and viewing every talk as a chance to fling ######### like the monkey he is.
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And then he gets MAD that we are not chasing his moved goal post, even though it is entirely non-sequitur to the point. Legit mad. It is really kind of a ######### situation.
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That's why i only quoted the important part of his post.
The wall of text that follow it is just there to discourage you to keep answering, so he get the last word.
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So, do you want all survivors to have similar/same color palettes?
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The circle of nonsense is hilarious from you two and I laugh so hard how he ignores how badly he got exposed for trying to troll. Then it's the typical killer main troll response I'm going to ignore you because you dared counter me with actual facts and logic.
You both suffer from an extreme lack of using your senses, perhaps this meme will help you both.
Oh and op you can't run or hide or troll your way out since your own quotes expose you.
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No, the only issue is her dark brown jacket in her original skin and P3 skin. Just enough so that picking her doesn't give an advantage over other survivors.
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@Saint_Ukraine "So, do you want all survivors to have similar/same color palettes?"
No.
Just making the base/prestige set a bit brighter.
Not shiny, brighter.
Shouldn't be hard to higher the brightness of her color palette in Devs modeling software.
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Like how you ignore me pointing out that you never once address the point of this thread? What was your main again?
So you are acting just how you say killer mains act, and projecting it. Got it.
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Bahahaha you're still trying to troll your way out again, do I really need to point out where you said you tunneled claudette's then turned around and said you were a survivor main?
I also in my very 1st response to you pointed out all the ways to counter it, you doing the typical head in sand chose to insult me and change your story.
Then you say they haven't changed anything but they did change her dark out to make it lighter, they've also nerfed maps.
So me having repeatedly given counter arguments equates to you trying to continue to troll your way out. All the while saying I've not given you anything yet the direct quotes disprove your claims, so you keep on trying to troll.
So keep on proving the issue isn't Claudette but you and your in ability to either accept advice and refusal to change.
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You are counter arguing the argument "There is no counterplay." No one said that. You seem to assume someone said that. The argument is "There is unfair advantage for one character."
In your tenth post harassing people here, you have still yet to actually mention the argument at all. You are repeatedly ignoring the point and trolling.
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You still can't stop trying to troll your way out of this and keep changing your story, you were given several ways of countering her.
Oh and if you're still so adamant there's no counterplay to her Freddy would like to say hi, as would Doctor you know the one that shocks Claudette's out of stealth. Oh and then there's Trapper who's traps ignore Claudettes, Hag's traps that ignore Claudette's stealth.
Lets see there's Whispers and Spies from the Shadows, there's 3 killers with aura reading within 12/16/32 meters. Oh and did i mention Freddy that can see anyone regardless of outfits.
The only unfair advantage is the one you refuse to adapt and get better against, ever watch Marth88 destroy P3 Claudettes on dark maps? IT's because he knows how to play against them because he's played as one.
Since you think it's totally unfair prove it by getting her to P3 and playing against good killers at rank 1. Now we both know you'd never be able to do that because you would have to admit that GOOD killers have no issues with her.
Oh and your typing out of both sides of keyboard posts from the 1st page say hi.
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I remember when I thought this way... when I was a rank 20 killer lol.
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Wow. I literally said that you are arguing against the point that there is no counter play, and that no one said that... then in your next post, you outright state you are arguing against a point only you made. That is straight up flaming.
Literally;
Me: "You are counter arguing the argument "There is no counterplay." No one said that. You seem to assume someone said that. The argument is 'There is unfair advantage for one character.'"
THEIR NEXT POST: "Oh and if you're still so adamant there's no counterplay to her Freddy would like to say hi, as would Doctor you know the one that shocks Claudette's out of stealth. Oh and then there's Trapper who's traps ignore Claudettes, Hag's traps that ignore Claudette's stealth."
I don't even know how you deal with this. Is it stupidity, or a troll? Or some twisted amalgamation squeezed from the infected rectum of the internet?
Also, it has still failed to address the actual arguement. It is impressive, it's dedication to revealing its own mental failings.
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So If I'm understanding the OP correctly he is saying that Claudette has an unfair advantage because of her color palette? Does Adam and Tapp have the same advantage in your opinion? Because I main survivor Kate, wearing Dainty Curls head, Old Glory knotted t-shirt body, and Jorts legs. And I have no problem staying hidden. The killer only sees me if I want them to. Its not about the "color palette" its about your positioning. Not hiding in obvious places. And knowing what the killer is looking/listening for. In my opinion all survivors have the same advantage color palette wise. They all have "stealth" outfits and "toxic" (hi-vis) outfits. It all really depends on the players skill.
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The op is making excuses and then keeps changing their story each time you give them counters to their argument. It's Straw Mans, Red Herrings, insults and deflections the usual troll posting form someone that can't accept they need to improve.
I can play Jeff and be super stealthy and not be seen unless the killers good something some in this thread aren't or I want to be seen.
Oh and I can play Adam and Tapp and be just as stealthy, the op is just using the Ostrich move because that's all they can do. If Claudette was so op then why doesn't every lobby have 4 P3 Claudette's or all dark outfits every game?
I mean you'd never see a David, Feng, Laurie, Kate, Adam, Jeff, Quentin, Meg, Tapp, etc if the op's claims were true.
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Didn't know I was in the presence of a god who has never failed at stealth once. Please, we have a separate forum for deities. Us mere mortals aren't fit to be in your presence. To have never once, in your life, been caught by a killer? Incredible.
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Stealth is staying out of LOS any killer at high rank with a brain will see you if you crouch in a corner and fun fact it's pretty easy to stay out of LOS
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You are not the only priority Bats. People get responses in the order they respond. To you, actually, the falacy you are looking for was mentioned earlier as being one you are using, known as a moving the goalpost falacy. And I have not changed my story. In the last what? 6-7 posts? I have asked you to simply discuss the point. You don't. You never have. You just flame. You literally ignored that I called you out for acknowledging that you are a point no one made. I would say more, but you clearly cannot read.
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You just made their own definition of what is done and presumed their failings were shared with those around them. Please stay on topic @KillermainBTWm8 , and avoid insulting anyone who isn't being toxic to you first.
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