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For the love of god, please remove Legion from 2v8
Legion completely ruins this mode, adding an already unfun killer that gets completely free injures just makes the whole thing infuriating. Combining free injures with Oni is something I just don't understand the logic of, what was BHVR thinking?
It is so ridiculously easy to chain multiple hits to get a free insta down that survivors cannot avoid (no, you cant avoid Frenzy every time person who is about to claim that).
Please, please remove Legion
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Ah, here we go again…
- try to bodyblock Legion if you are already mending, so he can't get to other survivors
- stand under pallet and drop it on him when he swings
- play Medic
He is going to often injure you under pallet, if you do it this way, but at least won't get any other hits. You also don't need to worry about Enduring there, so it's pretty safe to do.
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Ah, here we go again…
I am getting up for 7k hours in DBD, I don't need to be told how to verse Legion; a weak but incredibly annoying killer.
You have missed my main point, I don't need you to tell me how to deal with Legion 1v1. The problem is when you combine Legion, who gets free cheap injures, with a killer that feeds off those free injures, you have a miserable combination.
It renders the medic role almost redundant too, the same way that bringing a medkit against Legion is all but pointless. You don't seem to understand how consequential free injures are when two killers are in play.
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who gets free cheap injures
I would say that term kinda shifted after Kaneki :D That's how free looks like… You can prevent it against Legion.
You don't seem to understand how consequential free injures are when two killers are in play.
Or I am just better at preventing it and understand how healer is good against it… Comparing it with medkit is very flawed.
True, I play with 22 ms ping, so stunning him under pallet is simply easier for me compare to other players.-13 -
They won't remove him. That's (sadly) almost guaranteed, so it's worthlessto suggest that (even if it would be for the best of the mode as a whole).
What we should do instead is encouraging them to drastically overhaul his 2v8 power. Maybe feral frenzy no longer injures but applies some form of debuff, or exposed or whatever, but the free injury is way too much when there is another killer around to take advantage of all the free injuries legion gets.
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Sadly I think you're right, they wont remove him and he will continue to ruin 2v8. Ahh.. I cant wait until this mode is over so regular queues are back to normal. Edit: at the very least dont allow Legion and Oni to be played as a combo!
Not going to continue back and forth if you're willingly misunderstanding…
Oh but I will say… my ping below and bear in mind this is higher than normal due to 2v8. I have had below 10ms as I appear to live almost next door to my local server.
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They can take Oni away too and i wouldn't even care. He literally has infinite power all game, and 80% of my matches yesterday were washed before 3 gens were done.
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i personally not even gonna bother playing 2v8 and do the tome challenges if legion and oni are in the mod. these 2 killers are too strong for this mod and ruined it. this mod is garbage now.
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I honestly am not a fan of Oni in this mode but combined with Legion… if the killers have functional brains they can make it so Oni is in power pretty much continuously and it makes for a pretty miserable match.
I don't find Legion themselves strong, it is just when you combine them with Oni in this mode that I think is a real problem. I cant understand how they didn't see this being the case? Oh and have you had a killer clearly using their alt to load in then DC on the Legion?
Legion bot is RELENTLESS and as I discovered, blinding them doesn't really help like a normal human killer as of course they have constant wall hacks so you may as well not bother blinding them.
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Oh but I will say… my ping below and bear in mind this is higher than normal due to 2v8. I have had below 10ms as I appear to live almost next door to my local server.
Then it should be easy for you to simply stand under pallet and stun him on reaction.
You can use scout and can do this basically whole game…-4 -
To be honest I never expected Oni to get into 2v8, mainly for this reason…
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That isn't at all how it works unless the Legion is literally brain dead, that isn't how this works at all.
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boo hoo. try playing something else if you don't like the game
survivors when the KILLER is KILLING: 😢
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What do you mean braindead?
What is Legion supposed to do, if I just stand under pallet and won't drop it until I see/hear him swing.
He can do his little dance to bait me, but that's about it.-3 -
You know they won't do this right? They said themselves, their adding ALL killers to 2v8 rather ppl like it or not, it wouldn't be fair if Survivors weren't all available for 2v8 either, so... and besides this just feeds into the idea for a legion rework, no matter how many buffs legion gets, it won't change the Weak but still annoying power they have
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The problem is, not every killer is suitable to be paired with a second killer. I would think it should be patently obvious why Legion, a killer that gets cheap hit for free, should never be paired with Oni.
Apparently this isn't obvious to some, including BHVR it seems.
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Honestly not sure what the point of this response was?
You don't appear to have any point to counter my complaints and I am pretty sure we understand the role of killer by now. Really don't see how this response helps at all.
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they dont need to remove legion
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That's why I say they should make changes to their powers than just nerfs or buffs to compensate for this reason entirely
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Yes, if they insist on including them then they definitely need to make changes. But as I said, at the very least you should not be able to combine Legion and Oni together. So sick to death of this combo
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Agreed
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I'm literally playing perma Guide and gen rushing the ######### out of Legion until killers start playing something more interesting.
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Yeah maybe I should switch to guide.
Thing is, no MMR so team mates are clueless and they continually bunch together so its just frenzy after frenzy and Oni is in power literally nonstop match after match.
If team mates all hit separate gens all over the map it would help, sometimes I get lucky with smart team mates, most times I do not.
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Legion does seem to ruin 2v8 matches, playing against them sucks. I too hope you consider removing Legion from 2v8, before too many people get fed up.
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They won't do that, they said their gonna add all killers to 2v8, I think they need tk change his power with how it works in 2v8 than get rid of em or rework them like they should have done ever since 2020
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Honestly I'm just confused why their cap is 8 for their power, just make it 4 and remove the instant down make it so chaining hits maybe gives them a pallet break on vault token or something or gives them a faster come out of power CD, it'd still be incredibly powerful in a 2 man team. Not to mention they have the buffed power cancel now, chase legion is fine.
it's an information tool and it gets free hits.-1 -
I'd rather play against a Blight-Nurse combo every 2v8 match for the rest of my life than have to go against legion ever again, I'm so for removing them
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Yeah I am so fed up with it, usually combined with an Oni for obvious reasons. I have had Nurse or Blight with some other killer and its like a sigh of relief lol
I find Legion incredibly tedious on a normal day, not strong, just tedious. So having to face them pretty much 4 out of 5 matches is beyond miserable.
I also maintain they are unfair in this mode, a Legion can make Huntress perma Iri Head, or any other killer team mate an insta down killer. It isn't unusual to have to mend 5 times in a single match and I dunno about you but that alone is mind numbingly tedious and becomes infuriating when it is almost every match.
Honestly I don't think it is an understatement to say Legion alone completely ruins this mode.
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Sorry but just because you or a few others dont find him fun to go against in this mode, doesnt mean he needs to be removed
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I think you will find the vast majority of the player base, survivors, despise having Legion in this mode.
The only reason killers like it is because he is completely broken in 2v8 and is an 'easy mode' killer that takes zero skill to get survivors injured.
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just remember if you dont have killers, you dont got a match and gens fly pretty quick in this mode with no type of gen stall save for kicking. So whether survivors despise it or not, some killers like legion are design the way they are in 2v8 and are needed not that legion is needed in every match.
the funny thing is: is that survivors will call anything the killer does that inconveniences them "broken". As for the "zero skill" statement, unless you just have to push 1 button and do nothing to injure them, its just childish to say legion takes no skill.
So let me ask you this: If they do remove legion from this mode are you going to be quiet about removing any other killers, are you going to try and adapt anytime killers give you problems, are you going to take accountability for your bad plays or just learn to take the L and realize its not the end of the world if you lost?
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Legion takes zero skill to get injures for free in frenzy, that is an objective fact. As survivor, you just get hit and it doesn't matter that I am nearing 7k hours in DBD… I just get 'outplayed' with zero skill involved from the killer.
Now in a normal match, Legion gets free injures but they still have to chase you down. Not so in 2v8, they instead turn the other killer into an insta-down killer. Huntress has perma Iri Head and so on. Not only that but mending simulator is unbelievably tedious and facing it back to back is infuriating. I should not even have to point out the problem with zero skill free injures when Oni is also involved.
It has nothing to do with my "bad plays" - there is no outplaying frenzy, it takes zero skill. I guarantee I am better than 99% of players out there just from pure experience. I don't care about other killers, LEGION ruins 2v8 as I already made very clear.
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Legion doesnt take the highest skill to use his power even in 2v8 but it takes more than "zero skill" that is the real objective fact.
Legion in 2v8 actually turns it into a 1v8 since all the legion is doing is doing frenzy on everyone and not getting downs. But even if he does focus getting downs it should give survivors downtime to mend and heal unless nerf'd healing in 2v8. Doesnt matter if you find mending back to back infuriating, you are facing the legion, you have to mend. Shouldnt be that difficult to get 2 or more other survivors to heal you unless all of you survivors in 2v8 dont think about healing teammates.
Actually it does, you make a bad play you suffer for it. You see people getting deep wound you run to the other side of the map, even tho Legion's frenzy duration has been increased, the maps are bigger than the 1v4 versions. Again takes more than zero skill. You say you dont care about the other killers, we'll see if they do remove legion from 2v8 (hopefully they dont, maybe some light nerfs next time), and hopefully you wont make the same posts about Oni/Slinger/Blight
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I really don't think you understand the macro, so I wont bother replying further as you clearly don't understand.
Legion takes ZERO SKILL to get injures, that is just a fact. Doesn't matter if the Legion has 10 hours on DBD and you have 10,000 - they get the free hit because your skill doesn't matter. You're just resorting to strawman arguments regarding other killers, as I never made any such statement so you can argue that one out with yourself.
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Pre run? Force Pallet stun? Body block? 99 the mend? Like there is plenty you can do against him.
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Tell me you don't understand the problem without telling me you don't understand the problem. I will ignore future replies as I should not have to explain the same thing over and over.
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In a 1vs 1 you might be right. But telling one person what to do in 2 vs 8 when the other 7 are all mending is surely missing the point.
Post edited by JawsIsTheNextKiller on5 -
No because in 2v8 that is 8 chances to stop him on a large map. If the other 7 are mending then that is 7 skill issues. May not be able to every time like being in the open but you have 8 chances total.
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Exactly, you get it.
Now in a normal 1v4 with Legion, they get the free injures as usual but they still have to win mind games and outplay to get the down. Mending is tedious of course but balanced out by the fact the Legion has nothing after that free tag.
When a second killer is in play… the entire dynamic changes.
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Protip, if you drop a pallet on his head it cancels his power.
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Bruh…
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Protip, if you hop in a locker, he has to cancel his power to get you.
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I asked about it in the previous 2 vs 8. I was immediately attacked with insults by the Legion players. Capcom gave a lot of money so that Legion in the Hank skin would be in the mode. It remains to add Plague so that there are no survs left in this mode.
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Bruh
I am really surprised they brought Legion back again tbh, especially when they also added Oni to the mode. It really leaves me shaking my head in disbelief that they did this and I really wonder how much they play tested this?
Even just on the face of it, Legion and Oni together is obviously a really bad idea
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