The ghoul
I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE. Dead by daylight should have Done him as a skin and Not as an own killer. Hes too OP and annoying. IT really pisses me Off that you cant really stand a Chance. I Love Tokyo Ghoul but this was a bit stupid. Make an cooldown for the attacks.
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You want some tips to go against him?
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Yeah honestly, I do not enjoy the fantasy of Tokyo Ghoul at all, none of my friends like him, he ruins the night by just existing.
Probably the biggest Flop Chapter in terms of going against a killer in a while. Survivors were not thought about at all in this design.0 -
The Ghoul is weird to me.
On one hand he is big success for behavior, people love to play him, he is fun.
But on the other hand, he is the biggest failure when it comes to playing against him. People hate it, it's miserable and kaneki fatigue is real - I myself stopped playing as much, same with my friends.
People saying "one more ghoul game and I'm done".
I myself feel miserable playing agaisnt him.4 -
In case you didn't know, The Ghoul got nerfed a lot in the last 2 patches. He got so weak that his player base dropped significantly.
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Ghoul is not weak lmao, hes still solid A tier
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Clearly the 6 people that downvoted me wanted tips so here we go.
When youre healthy try no to drop pallets, break line of sight and try to put obstacles between ghoul and you, there is a chance ghoul gets stuck on something while grabbing you which cancels his m2 hit.
If you Do get hit its always better to get hit by his m2. This puts his power on a 8 second cooldown and gives you a speedboost use this downtime to run to a loop. Try not to get m1d this lets him instantly leap after you.
When ghoul kicks a pallet when he has his power he will go in 5 second cooldown. Use this down time to run to another loop.
Make sure you heal against ghoul unless you have a very safe map if you have a map with deadzones being injured is basically a free down.
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I hate him.
I agree 100%
The only issue he is just miserable to go against. I made a whole post about it not long ago that has over 70 comments. I thought I hated Legion and Wesker, The Ghoul has made it to the top. Congrats. Sigh.
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It doesn't work like you think it does, unfortunetely.
- Kaneki can hold his power for a long time, he will get the line of sight - it's not as easy as you think it is.
- Dropping pallets isn't too great of a thing too. He is on a rage mode for the whole time - he can "kidnap tech" you and get free hit after the vault.
YOU DEFINITELY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HEAL AGAINST THE GHOUL. You lose 24 seconds for a self-heal with a medkit.
You can complete 27-30% of a gen instead of healing if you have medkit.
You would complete a lot more gen progress if you would heal with selfcare, strenght in shadows (you need to run towards basement) or any other healing perk.
It's better to run resilience at all timesHere are so real tips to how to play against him:
- Pallet's are your friend - but you can't simply drop them.
You need to make sure to watch for him charging his power at all times.
When he is leaping towards you, try to bodyblock the pallet, after he cancels his power, you are supposed to drop the pallet. - Same thing for when you are looping ghoul and he respects the pallet, waiting for you to drop it.
He will prefire his power, waiting for you to drop - kaneki will respect pallet's most of the time.
When he charges his power, you can see "teeth" at your character. CAMP THE PALLET, wait for teeth to disappear and then drop the pallet. He won't be able to vault it, needs to break - power goes on a cooldown. You make distance. - If you want to play windows: Kaneki most of the time will be charging his power to get a "kidnap-tech" after the vault.
You are supposed to wait a little, bodyblocking the window and at the end of his power just simply slow-vault the window (note: you need to learn how long he can keep his power, you need to feel the timing)
Kidnap-tech means he is holding you on the spot while he vaulting the window or the pallet. - Sometimes it's a good idea to vault the pallet after kaneki's vault. BUT you can't be too close to him while he vaults, move a little from the pallet, wait a second and come back for a vault. Same thing as wesker's vault.
- Bonus tip while you are using the medkit: Heal 99%.
Most of the time kaneki won't use his power on you, if you are injured. He will leap over to you, closing up the distance.
When he turns off his power, it's time to heal. Yes - you are getting a free hit for that, but you are alive and not in mending state - meaning you can use your dead hard or styptic.
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Hahaha, that ratio is a little ridiculous for an innocent question... guess you poked the wasps nest xD
I haven't played much lately since his second nerf (Nightrein, Marvel Rivals), and I do apologise if I'm wrong, but isn't there a thing where if his power is on cooldown he can break the pallet and his power doesn't lose stacks?
So he can time it and basically subvert the penalty... and break pallet/chase down survivors like he did before...
Regardless, I don't mind him as much now... Personally I find him to be in the same camp as Blight and Nurse, where if you're playing against a console Ghoul, he tends to get run over... but if you're against a well practised one on mouse and keyboard, you just get roflstomped no matter what they take unless they play uber nice to give you half a chance 😅
Sure a sweaty Kaneki is annoying, but no more annoying than sweaty Blight, and whenever I see one I think "pfft whatever dude, if the win means that much to you, go ahead".
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Don't they all play like their life is on stake all the time?
Me and my friends always make fun of those "sweats" that they are playing for a meal. Good old slugging for 4k situation, ahh.
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It is a... fairly frequent experience, aye xD
I roll my eyes when I see such sweats, just running over your opponents isn't fun for me, on either side.... I don't get the appeal of playing hardcore meta in any game... you either crush your opponents effortlessly or play the most sweaty unfun match possible... it sucks no matter what.
I tend to switch goals in those games to "Okay... I just want to get 2, maybe 3 gens finished for pride points"... which in SoloQ, is still a pretty Herculean task sometimes xD
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Oh, me with friends do 1 gen for pride and we call it a win xD
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I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I said that The Ghoul has already been nerfed in the last 2 patches, and he’s significantly weaker compared to when he was first released. In my opinion, there’s no need to nerf him any further. If the person who made the post still can’t handle The Ghoul even after he’s been nerfed twice, then it’s probably a skill issue on their part.
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I still hope he gets nerfed a bit. He doesn't require skill to win. And for survivors you have to remember that you have 1 hp because he has free hits. Even if you're on the other side of Haddonfield they'll fly up to you in a second. And this ability seems to be infinite, he jumps always and everywhere, pallets, windows, distance. I haven't escaped even once today.
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To be honest Ghoul is not OP anymore, he is pretty average and only noobstomper. His main part of kit, constantly catching to survivors - as Singularity or Blight can do much better anyway, was gutted massively. He is not perforemed as much as he used to be and it's reasonable. While i think he was close to be S tier on release now he is B at best. The only thing he needed to be balanced was rework of iri mask, but all other nerfs were uneccessary.
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The only change I want is that they make it so that he can't targets survivors on the first leap so the pallet standoffs need some skill and not just hold until one blinks.
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There ae several things to the Ghoul to be just annoying. My biggest issue is the stupid hitscan. It definitly needs to go, there is no arguing to let it stay. Then they have to fix the bug that he can injure you even when colliding with a pallet. After that they can start to get rid of the stupid fast vaults into hits. After that we can see whats even going on.
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laughable that you want to nerf already underpowered killer.
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underpowered killer against whom no second chance perk works and who flies around the map. funny
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What already other killers can do, even better. What's the complaining here for? He can't down you with his power. He has to use it to catch up, which is limited when breaking pallet.
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Underpowered? THATS laughable.
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Yes, underpowered. I'm sorry but there are way stronger killers than Ghoul. Why nerfing him when other killers will remain be stronger? If Nurse, Blight, Billy, Dracula… get nerfed for some weird reason then yes, nerf ghoul… untill that no reason.
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Yeah, there are nurse and blight. And then we have ghoul. Billy and dracula are not as strong as ghoul. And the thing is his kit is just annoying as hell.
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i will agree with you on "ghoul is not fun to go against". 100 %. But problem is, you can't really keep killer strong and fun at the same time. Ghoul is defienetly not as strong as Billy or Dracula, he is just easier, not stronger.
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needs a longer cooldown after jumping before he can attack. it's ridiculous how he can make a jump so perfect he gets glued to your ass just to down you half a second later (you WILL be injured cause his m2 is literally a free hit).
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