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How do you have fun?
I mainly play killer and have ~250 hours on the game. I only play survivor when my friends are on, so I usually have fun with survivor and don't have to worry too much about slugging / tunneling. When playing killer however, I go against bully squad after bully squad and since they don't always bring 4 flashlights, have private steam profiles, or switch to flashlights as soon as the game starts, so I can't avoid them. The current event feels very killer-sided, so I don't have much issue with it, but I have played the occasional regular game and it is miserable. Survivors click flashlights and t-bag, making it difficult to ignore them. I hate tunneling because it makes the game significantly less fun for everybody. The map offering nerf made it so that I can't just send us to a map I'm confident on. I know to just leave chase when I need to, but even with gen slowdown builds generators get popped way faster than I can keep up with. I am experienced with playing Huntress, Blight, and Singularity, but no matter what I play I feel like it is stomp or be stomped. I believe my MMR is higher than it should be because I consistently go against survivors with 2k+ hours on the game and I get crushed. I just went on a ~15 loss streak across multiple sessions of playing, with survivors being toxic in each game. I'm genuinely considering just quitting, but I have too much time and money invested into the game. What do I do? Are there builds that are better than meta? Is it just a huge skill issue?
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As a killer I have fun by going full tryhard no mercy until I have 2 hooks on each survivor, no killing. I try to see how fast I can get that done, usually at 5-4 gens. Then i just chill and toy around with the survivors and i'm just friendly and they leave (unless they blind me or BM me, then they die).
As a survivor I don't have fun. It's miserable to play and I only play survivor to do the challenges...
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Just ask the people who come here claiming that killer is way too easy but survivor is way too hard. They should be able to provide plenty of instructional gameplay video to show us all how to easily beat down survivor teams.
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I like to horse around with builds I enjoy. sometimes you lose to your own misplay, but sometimes the survivors just played better and sometimes the RNG is just against you. I try not to sweat those last 2, it happens.
right now I'm just goofing off with end game Springtrap these past couple weeks. I love being able to ease up on teams or eliminate somebody specific I don't like. I will gladly 1k every game if it meant the meanest survivor will be afraid of t bagging at the exit Gates in their future games.
Last night for example I specifically declined a 4k by leaving a Lara even though I had her death secured with Noed+None are Free because I didn't like my Rancor Obsession; I made it a point to meet him at the gates specifically to tell him how I felt and the instant my axe lodged in his back when he was out the gate, he DCd on the spot because he knew I had the Loot Bag. dude wanted to make me miss my axe so he could tbag in my face.
Lara came by and photobombed the mori. Things like that make me giggle.
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Just use killer/build so you are in control of the game, then go easy on survivors if needed.
I would need to see gameplay to comment on your playstyle, but you should be fine with Blight/Singularity. I would suggest simply watching streamers play those killers and mimic them.
If you want to see good Blight, then I would suggest Lilith Omen. God like flicks with entertaining commentary.
Singularity is heavy macro killer, so that's kinda more difficult to get into.3 -
I have fun by 8 - 12 hooking. No tunnelling, no camping.
Sometimes I’ll leave things at 8 hooks based on how rough it was for the Survivors, or if they brought shared BP offerings or the Survivors or cute.
But even if I decided to proceed to Kills, I’ll still spread hooks out as best I can, and if that costs me the match, so be it.
I get very little toxicity when playing like this too, as a bonus.That said, if I end up against a really good team, or a flashlight/stun squad, I’ll go all out. Kinda. Still never gonna tunnel or camp, but I’m not going to ignore someone I’ve hooked if they’re all I find.
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Problem is in the existing MMR system people just turn the blind eye to it because they are afraid BHVR will ruin it even more.
Anyways i pointed already out that 4 stack premades should only go up againts higher mmr killers only like top 0.1% - 1% players
Then leave the avg mmr to above avg mmr killers to verse mainly solo q survivors.
The issue is comms and i cant stress enough how much difference real time comms give advantage over killer.
Some people say the game is designed in killer favor some say its not anymore.
What i will say is currently gen slowdown perks dont really help much unless you play really badly sweaty tryhard and make no mistakes and cut chases shorter than 20s or else you get punished by gen popping.
You basically have to min max as a killer when versing the so called "bully" squads i just call them 4 stack comm teams.
Currently BHVR does not have anything implemented to give killer same external advantage that survivors can use IF they of course have friends that is.
Now the thing is, some people will show up and bring up stats from 6 years ago to 2 years or 1 year ago but those stats are still outdated.
The thing is some people say its placebo that the games feel harder some people say skill issue, i just say that its way more common now to play DBD as a survivor with your friends than it is to play solo q.
Anyways to go back to the whole point of how to fix it and it is to basically for BHVR to hardcode a system to not allow 4 stacks to verse anything below high mmr just because of they most likely probably using vc to give call outs as soon as a killer in this case you dips to rotate.
Nothing you can do about it as a killer no matter if running ghoul or blight or nurse or springtrap.
They will call it out as soon as killer drops the chase because they realized its too much time for a single survivor.
The games will be way more fairer if stacked survivors go againts high mmr killers with 2k - 10k hours.
Rather than current system which if you do well for few games as you singularity or such that will bump your mmr by a huge amount according to what dev said on this forums before
3k+ count and 2k are a draw.
As long as u get 3k back to back your mmr jumps drastically which makes it more likely your games being 60% each match filled by a 4 stack comm team.
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i have about 10k hours an fun is hard to find these days as someone who doesn't play the stronger killers i expect to have a few games a week were i have games were i don't even get a single hook
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I just play the characters I enjoy and have fun!
Though unfortunately, the characters I enjoy tend to get a lot of changes. First was Freddy, now Skull Merchant.
Can't seem to take a break, really.
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Thats an option. Like that you will always play against weak survivor. Its not the best option if you want to get better, but only playing at low mmr is less stressful.
I see far too many killer which have no chance but have noed or something else what gives them a kill. A kill is a kill and all is fair, but then they will get a good team again and again. And its honestly pretty easy to get into "high mmr" too quickly.
Another thing from my experience: teabagging survivors are most common in the middle. When i started killer and got more successful, i got so many ez messages after losing. (mostly from 1k-2k hour players). But now i rarely see that. Yh there are flashlights clicks and other stuff to get my attention, but teabags at the gate or ez messages are extremely rare.
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I try to play with the enjoyment of everyone involved. I'll give them a good match, but if there are any silly shennanigans going on, I'll run with it to give everyone a fun laugh - a break from the stress of typical gameplay.
Example from one of my matches (and yes I let them escape in the end):
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When xeno came out i mustve overplayed it and kept winning as my mmr with them skyrocketed, and has not gone down since. So whenever i play xeno i get the same kinda groups you mention 90% of the rounds (which those kindsa teams sure love turret stacking).
So i barely play xeno nowadays. What i do tho is play any other killer on the roster and you get more commonly casual rounds, due to them having individual mmrs. Still not exempt from occasional swat teams but it does feel generaly smoother when u don't play your dedicated mains. By the time you go back to your main u might get a casual round with them as well.
another thing is during events, swf swat teams love the base normal game que over whatever event / modifier is going on. So all the casual players are mostly in the event que for casual rounds n points and quests n stuff, while the swat teams and bully squads overpopulate the base game que. I tried dracula in regular que during 2v8, i had a full swat team with legacy skins that took me half the round to down one, only to get triple flashbanged lol. So i suggest sticking to the event que.
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Honestly just tunnel and camp. It's exactly the reason why I started with it:
if you play "fair" (debatable word, but nothing I'll discuss now) you will get tbagged a lot if you lose and made fun of. There's not a single reason to choose playing without except the moral-part - but honestly if I have to choose between my and their fun, I choose mine. You don't have to be super aggresive (even tho I personally will take what I can. I got a kill by trapping the unhooker between hook and wall because he wanted to dodge my hatched - the guy on the hook only had 15 seconds left, so I just waited until the death and then took the hit xD) but at least don't just give them their win for free.
That being said you'll still be tbagged, but at least you fought with what you got as options.
The mapoffering thing is actually better for you as killer btw: batham, eyries, garden of joy and the game are all maps where it's just to awful to win on to even bother, especially if offered and probably prepared.
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I honestly don't take the game seriously like at all. Like i betend to be the surviviors friend and act like im helping them even though im not actually. I have fun by playing with who I want and how i want because im not responsible for others fun.
I rarely takethe game seriously even if im losing. I go ithought where we were friends and i GGs because its just a game. If I do go serious then im very scary and that's only to people who DM me. I will throw the whole game just to get them out an i will not give a damn if they cry about it because they want to go Click Click well I go Down Down oh and Hook Hook get out of my lobby 😂😂😂😂
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For me, I mainly just play this game with my friends. But when I play online, I am almost always playing killer. I mainly play to win, though some of the time I will goof around with survivors as Bubba or Ghost Face since I find that really fun to do.
Regarding survivors being toxic; I know that is very hard to ignore. But you've gotta desensitize yourself to it. If you get angry while playing, you'll make mistakes, and the survivors will continue being toxic because they're playing better than you. I know this is easier said than done, however.
Always be prepared to lose though, winning is not everything, and you are bound to lose some games. It is ok to lose, don't beat yourself up over it, it sucks I know. But every single loss is progress, you are becoming a better player when you lose. Especially if you take the time to consider what you did in that game that lead to your loss, and not doing it again.
In general though? Play how you want; don't follow 'made up' rules, play in weird ways, try to make builds that have perks that synergize nicely, use some add-ons that you've never used before, try out new killers (I myself have tried getting into Trapper as of late, I find him really challenging to play but fun!)
Like any competitive game, don't be afraid to take a break. Sometimes I perform iffy, and I take an hour break and workout and then come back and play way better than I did before.
Hope this helped you to a degree, have fun! And don't give up :)
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Killer is easy, SWF is just easier. There isn't two sides to this game, there's three and that's the core reason why this game is a miserable mess and why BHVR will never do anything notable after this gravy train has finally run out. SWF's completely dominate Killer, Killer completely dominates SoloQ and the matchmaking does nothing but add salt to the wound while BHVR ruins all Surv gameplay because of how OP SWF can get.
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I'm sure plenty of people can provide videos showing them losing miserably in solo queue. You realize that's what you asked for, right? Killers winning?
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If you want to play and you're not having fun, I don't have a lot of advice on how to change that. But I do have advice on how to not get so upset at the game.
I like to play music while I play, regardless of what handicap that adds. There are builds that can counteract that if you're concerned. Then I focus on objectives that I enjoy. As Killer, I'll play for chases and pallets or as Survivor I'll break all of the totems. Technically yeah it's throwing, sure. But you can't be on 100 at all times with DBD or you'll burn yourself out.
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Claiming something is easy because you’re actually able to do it and claiming something is easy because you see other people do it are two totally different things.
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no they're not. this is "you say global warming is real but have you personally done the experiments? checkmate" type argumentation.
if someone can point to a bunch of other people consistently winning as killer, that should prove that it's possible to consistently win as killer. requiring that everyone who makes that claim individually demonstrate their skill is silly
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fooling around with a ghost face that has a personality is always fun. WASSAAAAA!!
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Your example is not even remotely relevant to the argument I was trying to make, but whatever. I’m not going to keep trying to fix your broken logic. Here is a more relevant example: I conclude that averaging 30 points per game in the NBA is easy because I see on TV that the NBA’s best players can do it. Based on your logic, this is a perfectly reasonable conclusion!
I’m trying to draw conclusions that apply to the average player here. The good ol’ 80% rule - not the bottom or top 10%. If Mr Average Survivor Player is drawing the conclusion that “playing killer is super easy” because they see top 10% players doing it, not because they themselves can do it, they just look foolish.
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I had terrible luck with that in League, which is why I ultimately retired. I know it's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all, but when I do love I love too deeply.
it's why ultimately I'm not upset that Cenobites been forgotten about, because you can't lose what's been abandoned.
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It sure feels awful, doesn't it?
I just wanted to keep my OG Freddy and Skull Merchant 2.0, just 2 killers out of 40, don't think I am asking for too much here.
And now that you've mentioned it, my friend, I also had this terrible luck in Overwatch. Not just aspects of my favorite characters but also the game's format itself. But, in some capacity all those things that I lost eventually came back, so in OW there was a happy ending.
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I ended up migrating to OW as a result, and fell in love with Mercy and her original ultimate. Just my luck to love the first majorly reworked character..
thankfully in dbd my real true loves The Legion, even when it was commonly said they were the "worst killer in dbd". Thankfully my fellow Canadians have been aging gracefully :)
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You do realize four man swfs are actually a pretty small percentage of games right?
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I dont mean to be rude but the MMR system is obviously flawed since the more high up in mmr as in higher win rate as a killer you do aka 3kills+ the higher mmr = higher chances to verse swfs.
Since survivor mmr rises the more escape rate they have and hence when you play with friends its obviously much easier.
Im at the point where almost every second match is a highly cordinated team that plays so weird and fully nullify my stealth as myers even when nobody is in sight and i run full stealth undetectable..
Its almost as if they are using vc to call out my position when i rotate and kick gens.
I havent even cross the point from point A to B gen and they pop the gen i just been too and i made sure to check with my mirror around.
I call it bs since then there are games where they dont get past 3 gens and are on death hook.
And that means there is no way in hell that these are not 4 stacks, they enter lobby together at the same time, 3 medkits usually 1 toolbox or flashlight.
The key sign is the lobby fills up at the same time not one by one how the matches that i normally get which are usually 2 fill at once then 2 randoms or all randoms
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I'm not saying having 4 mans getting paired with higher mmr killers is a bad idea. I actually think it's an interesting balancing idea that should be tried. I'm simply saying that the dreaded 4 man swf isn't that common. Last time they released stats they were less than 10% of total games if I recall correctly. Over 50% are solo-queue with about 25% being in duos.
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I am seriously baffled because my matches feel sometimes so unbalanced like yeah i get people that cant progress further gens, then i get a squad that plays like NAVY seals.
Like yes myers known weakness is he lacks mobility but not to that extent they manage to do to me when i can handle it pretty well againts most matches.
It has to do with getting 3kills consistantly over matches and then it puts u really really high
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In DBD, my favorite map was also the first to get a visual rework: Léry's. Truly unfortunate.
Glad Legion is in a good spot for you, friend!
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Not sure if someone else mentioned this already, but once you know you have a bully squad, don't pick up until you know nobody's around for a save. Most bully squads (groups that try to prevent you from ever getting hooks) can be reliably beaten by an M1 killer if you assume they'll have people around for saves and you slug them until you know you can pick up.
I personally always try to play in a way that I'd want to be played against as killer. So I don't tunnel, camp, or slug for 4k. But if a squad actually tries to bully me, I consider that rude enough that I'm willing to forget those rules. If people are intentionally trying to make your experience miserable, don't worry about playing nice. If one player appears to not be in on it, I will try not to be rude to them though :)
Anyway, against those teams, personally, I was unable to have fun for a long time. I'd usually win, but find the match annoying and have to play another match to relax. Now, even with Pig (my main), I don't remember the last time a bully squad gave me trouble.
So I'd personally say just slug them and search the area before you pickup. If they're around, make sure they're injured and running far before you pick up. And don't fall for locker hops; someone will have a flashbang or Head-On. Oh, and if you want to swap around a chase perks for PWYF in some of your builds... bully squads will defeat themselves for you :)
I have a feeling you'll start winning every one of these matches soon. But I do remember that I used to find bully squads frustrating enough that I had to do something fun to relax afterwards. So just intentionally doing something fun (maybe even just a meme match) did help me relax in the past :D
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Well it's worse if you play both roles. The SoloQ in this game is the most miserable gaming experience in all of gaming. Nonstop comp Blights/Billy/Nurse (They all use Lethal) who slugs everyone 30 seconds into the match when a gen hasn't even been touched. Like okay, why am I in SoloQ but getting paired against P100 Killers who do that? Yet then I play any Killer and all I get are a amalgamation SWF squads with matching names and costumes who bring their best tools and all have identical perks lol
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The entire experience is miserable when the system is unbalanced, i get them to they stick together let me bleed out to death hook state then they run around not doing gens.
The killers run corrupt intervention too which also forces me to get up there or waste time and hide which of course i go around maps finding hex totems instead gens because i cba when they do indeed run what you say as perks and killers.
But yeah situation is also as bad as it is for solo q survivors as it is for killers who dont wanna run that bs builds.
I wanna come home from work and enjoy stalking and jumpscaring as myers and ideally end up with 3k and chase the last survivor and see who finds hatch first.
I dont got time to run meta perks i like my build for myers with ew 1 jumpscares but its miserable that by the time that i manage to get 1 person death hook they finish gens, dont get me wrong not all matches are like that, but if i was on pc and did infact run nurse or blight or kaneki the things would be different i would be able to abuse their abilities just because but im old now i have a ps5 i have other things in life
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