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SmokinACES109
SmokinACES109 Member Posts: 12
edited September 24 in Feedback and Suggestions
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  • Chinpokoman
    Chinpokoman Member Posts: 15

    Ah yes let's remove the only way to know if you need lightborn or not, absolutely brilliant 4000000 IQ plan

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  • Chinpokoman
    Chinpokoman Member Posts: 15

    Yeah considering you're defending the franklin changes and complaining about killers seeing items, it sounds much more likely you're a very very low tier survivor

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  • Skillfulstone
    Skillfulstone Member Posts: 1,128

    Letting Survivors see who the Killer is would instantly lead to mass lobby dodging and would make it a thousand times worse than even before BHVR hid Prestige in lobby for that exact reason. Some Killers would be stuck in queue for hours. After a few days, Killers that were just released would be stuck in queue because people would dodge them due to not wanting to face that Killer again because of obviously high pickrate.

    Not seeing items (which I assume also means not knowing if the Survivors are even bringing an item) would instantly make all item-related perks die.

    Franklin's, Lightborn, Overwhelming Presence, all chest perks, Weave Attunement. Just from the top of my head, all those perks would cease to exist because they would become a gamble far worse than even Hex perks.

    Neither of those options adds anything positive to the game.

  • KatsuhxP
    KatsuhxP Member Posts: 1,599
    edited August 1

    Playing against a four-flashlight swf with at least the chance to use lightborn? No thank you, I already waste a perkslot, that's bad enough - playing without against them is masochistic if you want it to be a relatively normal round and not some kind of slugfest xD

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,619

    To be fair, if someone does not want to get blinded, they should equip Lightborn every game. Flashbangs exist as well as Perks which grant Flashlights from Chests.

    @Topic:

    Still, not a good idea. IMO what should be removed are names and the ability to click profiles. But Items should be visible.

  • Chinpokoman
    Chinpokoman Member Posts: 15

    Incredibly low tier opinion if you think that killers should just always burn a perk slot on lightborn just in case they run into a flashlight squad. Might as well just buff killer aura reading to the max because you can just run distortion right? And lets buff chase perks too since you can just run windows + lithe/ overcome and just pre-run right? Every killer should be as fast as clown. If you don't like it, just use the perks I mentioned every single game. Also, I prefer franklins + weave anyways and you only take that if survivors are bringing items.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,619

    Just saying that if someone really does not want to get blinded, looking at the Lobby does not really prevent it. Residual Manifest exists which guarantees a Flashlight from a Chest. You cannot protect from this. Flashbangs exist (and are even more popular than Residual Manifest), which you cannot know as well from looking at the pregame lobby.

    But funny that you say "incredibly low opinion", if you are someone who really brings up Lightborn, one of the worst Perks in the game since it is really not that hard to avoid Flashlights and all Lightborn does is push Survivors to do more Gens instead of wasting their time…

  • Chinpokoman
    Chinpokoman Member Posts: 15

    Flashblangs are like 50x more avoidable than flashlights. I'm usually impressed rather than annoyed when they actually manage to pull it off. It literally has a drop sound. Just turn your camera up. Residual manifest is true, but if they waste a perk on that usually that means they are missing either vigil, finesse, windows, one of those chase perks and that makes them much easier to deal with. Do you play killer much?

  • Chinpokoman
    Chinpokoman Member Posts: 15

    Also the flashlight from residual is a basic beamer with no add-ons. Not a purple beamer with a iri bulb or 2 batteries. What even is this argument?

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,619

    I probably have more hours on Killer alone than you overall. Its not like I dont know what I am talking about. And personally, I would never equip Lightborn, it is a waste of a Perk Slot.

    If you would have actually read my initial post, you would have seen that I even said that Items should be visible in the Lobby. But I know, I expect a lot.

  • Chinpokoman
    Chinpokoman Member Posts: 15
    edited August 2

    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about if you think the flashlight from residual manifest is anything close to an add-on included flashlight from lobby. You clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about if you think flashbangs are remotely as annoying and reliable as flashlights. You are not fooling anyone. Even if we pretend you have a lot of hours, you clearly have absolutely no game knowledge. If this game was league, you'd be stuck in bronze.

  • Chinpokoman
    Chinpokoman Member Posts: 15

    YOU are the one that said people should equip Lightborn "every game". Now you are saying it is a "waste of a perk slot". I think it is obvious to literally anyone that you have no idea what you are talking about. You don't even know what you said like 24 hours ago. I know keeping track of what you said before so you don't look like a bumbling fool is a lot to ask but please try harder.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,619
    edited August 2

    Last post to you. Your reading comprehension is just too bad to waste any time discussing with you. And honestly pretty tired of someone writing in such an aggressive way.

    In my own opinion - Lightborn is a waste of a Perk Slot. I would never equip Lightborn, since I think it is easy enough to avoid Flashlight Saves, Flashlights at Pallets are bad since the Survivor can rather get distance and I would rather have Survivors trying to blind me than them being more optimal on Gens.

    BUT - IF someone wants to avoid being blinded, they should equip Lightborn every game. Because while seeing the Items in the Lobby (to repeat - which I still think should be the case, this is information the Killer should have) can be an indicator to equip Lightborn, if you really, really want to avoid being blinded, this is not enough, since 0 Flashlights in the Lobby does not mean that you will not be blinded. That you focus that much on Residual Manifest, which I only brought up as an example, just shows that your argumentation is very weak.

    That I think that something is not worth using does not mean that it should not be used by others, if they want to get an advantage in certains situation or want to avoid certain things. Those are not contradicting statements.