Is Clown still bugged?

Yesterday I was playing solo queue, loaded into a game and the second we all heard the glass bottle breaking sound, indicating the killer was clown, all three of my teammates DC'd on the spot. Honestly? I don't even blame them, playing against him is miserable.

If I were to suggest something, having a "sort-of" microblog that documents all the (more widespread) community complaints with information what is happening to them would be a god-send.

Entry 2137 - Clown reported as unbalanced - Gathering feedback [Link to Form]

Then the gathering feedback part could get changed to Sent to Devs/Fixed under development/To be deployed

Never had an easier time getting an adept achievement though.
I didn't play Clown beforehand, aside from a few matches testing him out like way before the changes.
But man oh man.. I felt so bad for the survivors in the game, that I had to write an apology in the end-game chat. They had no chance of making ANY distance on me, despite running Lithe and such.

Again, a significant amount of window vaults are either made or missed in that time frame. That's just the fact of the matter, and it's even more exaggerated when killer hit validation takes priority over survivor validation.

If 2% is not that much haste, then why was 3% for made for this such a big deal? If 2% haste is nothing, then surely 1% more at 3% is next to nothing, yet every killer main swears to the moon and back that the perk was busted. Which is it? Is it broken or is it no big deal?

Because Haste is by essence much stronger on the survivor role. Survivors lead the chase on a map while being 15% slower than killers. Them getting +3% mov speed has a considerably higher impact than the killer going from 125% to 127%.

I figured you'd bring up MFT.

The reason MFT was a big deal and this is not is because its not about the absolute movement speed increase. It is about the DIFFERENCE in movement speeds between survivor and killer. Additionally, due to a smaller hitbox, when looping, the differences in movement speed become more pronounced, because survivors can loop tighter around things. This is why movement speed bonuses for survivor are so much more powerful than movement speed increases for killer.

A default killer speed is 4.6 m/s, and a default survivor speed is 4 m/s. So that means that the DIFFERENCE in their movement speeds is 0.6 m/s. MFT being 3% means that a survivor goes from 4 m/s movement speed to 4.12 m/s. Which when you do the math there, it becomes a 0.48 m/s DIFFERENCE in movement speeds. So that 3% extra movement speed from MFT, actually extends chases by (in raw movement speed terms) 20%. Which is very significant.

Now lets look at the clown changes.

Before the clown changes yellow bottles were 10% movement speed increase, and the purple bottles were a 15% movement speed decrease. If you combine those together, it meant that the clown was moving at 5.06 m/s, and the survivvor was moving at 3.4 m/s. For a total DIFFERENCE of 1.66 m/s.

If you only look at prepatch purple bottles (i guess prepatch people didn't use yellow bottles much?) Then survivors would move at 3.4 m/s and the clown at 4.6 m/s for a difference of 1.2 m/s

After the patch, the yellow bottles are now 12% movement speed increase, and the purple bottles are 14% movement speed decrease. Which means that the clown is moving at 5.152 m/s and the survivor is moving at 3.44 m/s. Which is a total DIFFERENCE of 1.712 m/s of difference. Which amounts to a 4% increase in the DIFFERENCES in the movement speed. Meaning clowns chases last 4% less amount of time.

After patch people are saying that clowns aren't using purple bottles and are just using yellow bottles, so if we compare that to the clowns prepatch only using purple bottles, then we see the clown is moving at 5.152 m/s and the survvivor is moving at 4 m/s for a difference of 1.152 m/s. Which is actually LESS than the movement speed difference with the prepatch clown using only purple bottles.

This is a very insignificant amount when you factor that the devs balance chases lasting around 45 seconds.

A 20% increase in chases that last 45 seconds due to MFT is 54 seconds. 9 second PER chase.

A 4% decrease in chases that last 45 seconds due to the clown changes is 43.2 seconds, 1.8 seconds PER chase.

Again, you aren't losing the game because you are going down 1.8 seconds faster. You are losing the game because you never went against any clowns that were properly using the yellow bottles. Clown was always able to do the things he is doing now, its just that it was harder to do. Saying clown is a problem when nurse exists is a joke.

I can tell you watched Scott Jund's video, so thank you for providing me a summary of his points in text form.

A 20% increase in chases that last 45 seconds due to MFT is 54 seconds. 9 second PER chase.

A 4% decrease in chases that last 45 seconds due to the clown changes is 43.2 seconds, 1.8 seconds PER chase.

This is assuming everyone is just holding W to the opposite corner of the map. Unless you're on a map like coldwind, there WILL be obstacles which will force the survivor to path suboptimally, or force them to a tile. At that point, if a survivor is being forced to the tile, throwing the pallet and running will give you miles more distance as survivor than just raw haste (up to a certain point). Most tiles across the center of the map are 50/50s. Losing a 50/50 as survivor, with haste or not, will most likely secure a hit for the killer. All that to say, on paper it looks like a massive lean towards survivor, but in practice, haste increases favor killer because survivors are forced into tiles more quickly and cannot gain as much distance. Any hesitation by the survivor is a massive dip in the difference between their two positions; as going from 103% to 0% even temporarily means the killer can come barreling straight at you at 115%.

To even further explain the point, if both a survivor and killer had 3% haste, if starting from 10 meters away the killer would catch up to the survivor in the same amount of time at 16.666 seconds at 78.666 meters versus 16.666 seconds at 76.666 meters. An increase of 2 meters over the course of 16.666 seconds.