Am I the only one who is tired of this?

Although I feel like the narrative of "WE SAVED DBD" might be a tad harsh in retrospect, the honest reality is if those changes were praised by the community, they would have made it past PTB and made it to live. Unless they outright say "We're only testing this, we don't plan on it going live," it's likely planned to make it to live unless it is extremely heavily criticized. They in fact did not say they were only testing it and not planning on it hitting live prior to the announcement that they heard the community feedback. The only reason we knew it was never going live is because we already knew how we would feel when testing it because we play the game.

PTB changes were far too much, impacting Killers not intentionally tunneling and being exploitable by Survivors. They already said they'd be back in another PTB after further iterating and it's important that these measures are actually balanced when released rather than making the single most important role in any match utterly miserable.

I didn't say anything. I provided the proof the person wanted that BHVR is gonna make tweaks to the reduction system.

ngl i think its a soloq balancing issue both tunneling and especially slugging is so good against solo survivors, swf can deal with slugging way better than solos same with tunneling.

It's still not and will never be as bad because anti-tunneling and anti-slugging don't hit you with a DC penalty, nor is the DC penalty stronger with the patch like it was with anti-go next/afk. The game feeling terrible is valid, but the game not letting you play at all is something else entirely.

Long one here.

One thing I've learned over the course of this discourse was just how many people have double standards when it comes to certain things about this game. Not everyone obviously, but the amount double standards I've seen within this community can be a bit wild. A while back I made a post talking about Unbreakable being potentially base kit, and a lot of people basically said "Not happening" in laymen's terms, with most not even bringing suggestions on how to fix the current issue of slugging. (There were some good bits of conversation though)

An example of double standards. I have been told a couple things. One popular argument being, "You shouldn't need a perk to fix certain problems/issues." An example is when anyone brings up gen regression perks etc. Some people saying they shouldn't have to bring perks to stop certain mechanics of the game, but that's the actual point of the system in play. It's all about countering and adapting. I've seen people complain about flashlights, and when I've told people to bring lightborn when they see said flashlights. A perk that completely stops people from being able to use a popular aspect of the game. To which i get the same answer or similar I'd say about 80% of the time.

However, when you bring up slugging, people just say "Just bring unbreakable if it's so much of a problem"
Like…what? By that same argument, I shouldn't need to bring a perk to stop a mechanic thats being heavily utilized. Its more of an "It's okay for me, but not for thee" kind of shenanigans. And even then, it would probably be complained about to high hell until it got a nerf with 16 specific conditions in play before it would become active (This is hyperbolic/sarcasm, but you get the point) if it became so popular. Just look at how poorly people took the botany knowledge buff…..

I personally believe basekit unbreakable wouldn't be that bad, but think it should only start counting when 2 or more survivors are downed, and it has to be for like 150 seconds or something. Which some would say it's worthless then, but it's not supposed to be 100% of a crutch. Kind of like the anti camp. The people the changes really would have effected were killers who struggle with mobility or downing people in a chase fast enough to apply proper pressure. Which i think if that's the case, devs should look to tweaking and changing THOSE killers. (Save my boy trapper please) And i'm not talking about what they attempted to do with new Myers….. Not every killer should need a dash to make things less problematic. The changes they showed like base kit barbeque and other new built in features and the way some of them were more powerful on some killers, and weaker on others. (Nurse not being able to utilize the new system as strongly that they were attempting to implement, as it would have been really strong on her is a prime example) shows that they can add passive background perks on killers. Like make a system that if you're playing a less mobile killer, gens take a bit longer to repair vs one who is highly mobile, where they can stay the way they are at current. Something like that i don't know.

Last thing. This game, unfortunately, majority of the time, is stomp or be stomped. It's rare to find an in-between from my experience on both sides. You either have a really good killer, or ARE a really good killer, or get really good survivors, or ARE a really good survivor. Same for the bad aspect of this.

The game doesn't any major universal changes and tunneling doesn't need to be "fixed". You always could fix it. By getting better at the game.

I still think the phase 2 killer changes should have the same impact as the anti hiding update of phase 1.

I waited years for an anti-hiding update, just to watch it get nerfed into uselessness. BHVR spent so much time make sure the AFK crows didn’t ever unfairly punish survivors…. Meanwhile, they recently released a PTB that very often unfairly punished killers.

And some of the people that demanded for AFK crows to be nerfed into uselessness, are now demanding for the phase 2 killer changes to be huge and impactful.