So... when is the anti-tunnel and anti-slug measures BHVR promised is coming in...?

Hopefully never, they will be a massive decline in gameplay quality and the inevitable compensation / killer design change will make the game so much less enjoyable.

edit: to people downvoting me, do you genuinely want the game to turn into blight (krasue/ghoul moreso) by daylight? or do you just completely lack the ability to understand cause and effect and think they'll actually keep making fun and interactive mid tier (as of today's standard) killers in the dbd with these systems?

Depends on your MMR. My MMR is at the point where most of my matches are against mediocre killers trying to boost their kill rates with Kaneki and Krasue along with the occasional good Blight or Nurse, but I'm a high (not top) MMR mediocre survivor who can only do well against a good killer when the entire team is coordinated (and I play solo, so that's basically never).

I'd imagine things get rough if you're good enough to get to a higher MMR than that.

And if the tunneling changes go through… well, it's clear that the last couple of killers were designed for nu-DBD where playing the same way every single game is mandatory, but the majority of the roster will suffer, and past a certain point in MMR, you'll see like three killers all the time (even more than you already do).

> Every bit of killer powercreep has been met with survivors being told to 'get good'.

Im not wasting my time on this immature game of counting "who gets it worse"

I understand that you werent here since first year and dont remember OP ######### killers could crutch on, but Im not going to take the role of educating you on it.

Killer role's only "powercreep" was in getting more alternatives, if that's how you define powercreep, you're compromising your entire point so badly, I am going to consider not wasting my time on you any further.

>Tunnelling is the absolute lowest level of macroplay that any bot could figure out. This argument always tries to present some kind of grand strategic choice but ultimately always comes down to 'just tunnel 24/7 lol'.

If you actually took time to understand what Im talking about instead of yapping and knee jerk reacting to dogwhistles, you'd understand Im not saying that tunnelling is some kind of a high skill grand strategy or whatever strawman you made up here.

Tunnelling is the easiest / most consistent strategy that exists for casual killers to rely on and get their 60% killrate in the game balanced around said casual players (not killers in particular, I hope you're clever enough to recognize that devs arent actually either side biased) with the general killer design being fair / counterplay / medium strength level killers in that skill bracket. Any anomalies tend to happen either because devs didnt expect the killer to be so good in hands of players like you, in which case they promptly nerf that killer or killer's high capabilities are not an issue in the skill bracket they're balancing for, therefore they wont be a high priority issue - every S tier killer ever.

If you take away tunnelling which, amongst all other things, is the strategy casual killers rely on (and you will have to cope with le bad and casual killers, just like they cope with le bad and casual survivors) and force these people to do 2-3 times more work for the killrates, you end up with krasue/ghoul as default killer balance and judging by the fact these two not only didnt get any marginal nerfs but also got BUFFED and only insignificantly nerfed later on.

If you're content with dealing with these killers - I can only wish you the best and make sure not to regret it, but if not, you're not different than a sheep voting for the wolf.

>Ghoul got released before anti-tunnel's design was even on the table. You think they released a killer designed around anti-tunnel, months before their first attempt at anti-tunnel?

Rofl, lmao even.

Do you know how long they cook that #########? Like, do you have at least a slight idea? Or do you think they make patches from scratch in those 3 weeks in-between? To give you simple example, they were ALREADY PROMISING these systems (just nothing concrete) BEFORE the ghoul was even revealed.

And obviously, as I explained above, Ghoul's insane power has a different, not mutually excluding, explanation - devs' gross incompetence in estimating killer's power level because unlike other sanely developed games that often consider the full potential of something, DbD's balance is based on mediocre players which are insane wildcards in terms of how good they get with the newer killer or against them. The only thing defining the intention is how devs proceeded with addressing his issues.

They easily could've said that slide cancel is an exploit or that they didnt anticipate that and will nerf cancel more to account for that, they could've cancelled scamper buff, but all they did was add an insignificant token penalty while keeping Kaneki to be A+ Legion equivalent in terms of difficulty. Use your head and connect the dots, human brains are known to have pattern recognition ability.

>Also, we didn't get anti-tunnel, but we did get Ghoul and Krasue, so the threat of getting broken overpowered killers is kind of moot by now

And in that case those two would've got skull merchant treatment that they deserve as killers who do not deserve most of the strength they have in their kits. But alas, baby survivors refuse to get good vs other killers playing optimally so they're getting anti tunnel and baby killers will get a different way to autopilot the game by playing on these new killers and ######### on solo qers.

But recognizing that apparently means to be a biased survivor main. Oh wait, biased killer main, because that's what you're effectively accusing me of here, my apologies, Im lost in these accusations from different bad players being mad at truth.

Why should I recite that over and over to have people like the other guy screech im making ######### up? Oh no, krasue/ghoul (and clown sidegrade by an extension) totally didnt happen in relation of these systems, these are TOTALLY isolated cases of devs hating their players and wanting to make them miserable and totally not committing to a different formula of appeasing casual players that refuse to learn playing the game.

Idc enough, Ill just keep it short and laugh when people like OP who are dreaming of "being free" will end up "under new management". Same for people typing novels about "krasue feeling like the only real killer". Have fun, Im going to be winning either way.

the best ways they can make dealing with tunnelling easier is adding things like elusive status effect and removing unhook notification (just the notification, not the whole UI obstruction failure they've made)

a lot of problematic tunnelling happens because killers autopilot back to the notification and fresh unhook can't really get away because they're injured and leave scratchmarks.

raising skill floor for implementing the strategy and lowering the skill floor for dealing with it is a good way to make it less frustrating without compromising the fundamental balance/design approach.

incredible way of arguing, you might as well just quote individual words and smugly say "what did I say" and have the echochamber upvote you nonetheless.

actually, please do that, you seem petty enough to do that when pissy about not being able to argue back