This game is unplayable in SoloQ

I keep telling everyone these tactics are uncounterable in solo q. They need to install like a comm system for all survivors like what friday the 13th the game had. I'm talking PC and console. I think it would prevent all that.

The games already toxic and games like call of duty, friday the 13th have proven comm systems are a lot of fun and attract players. Plus its good for socializing too. I think this would be the best idea for survivors and killers. Survivors so they have communication and killers so they can play how they like without judgement. Then the next step after that would be to buff the lower tier killers so they are still a threat. I just feel it would make the game much more fun. This would also help against the higher MMR swfs as well with the new buffs.

What about comms in cod is fun? Maybe taunting an enemy, but there is certainly noone who does callouts.

for some strange reason people dont want solo to have comms. like you said SWF has it so why not solo? people say about the toxicity comms would bring but when confronted with "mute" button i see no valid reason why comms shouldnt be available to solo. people would have the choice to have comms on or off but it seems the general attitude is "i dont want comms so we shouldnt offer it to the people that want it either"

As someone who has played a lot of killer, SWFs (at a more limited scale - I don't know many who play DBD), and Solo Queue, here is one very common pattern.

One issue that can happen is the "solo queue survivor" might not inherently do well with a team due to a variety of possible reasons. Due to this, how well the survivors do in the round really comes down to the lynchpin of the quality of the solo survivor. If they just work alone, it'll usually be a rough match for survivors as a whole. Due to this, when I play solo queue, I ensure that I'm working with the team as much as I can, taking hits, doing rescues, and ensuring my hook states are a shared resource (ie get in the face of the killer and take a hook state if they are chasing someone on death hook). By doing this, you - the lynchpin - ends up being much stronger, and in turn, the chances for the survivors goes up a LOT.

As solo queue, if I didn't go out of my way to sacrifice myself in order to get others an escape through the door, I'd have a roughly 60% escape rate. At the moment, I have a 52.44% from the last 30 days according to the DBD stats tracker (which is almost entirely solo queue except maybe 4 matches), but this is lower than it could be due to, as I stated, I OFTEN will trade in the endgame or go down intentionally in order to ensure other survivor's escape (just my personality).

In the end, if you're playing solo queue, you need to be working with the team. If you're able to hold your own (ie know how to loop, when to take heat off others, etc…), then solo queue isn't that bad, at all. The other factor, of course, are the other people you get put into a match with. That comes down to MMR, which means the better skilled you are, you'll "usually" get put into matches with other experienced players. Your MMR level is on you and your capabilities - the better you are, the more experienced teammates you'll generally get (unless DBD MMR is on vacation which can happen during off hours often where it'll take just about anyone to put into your game).

It really does come down to being able to handle yourself and your skill level - even the quality of other teammates from matchmaking. Here's a recent clip of mine. You can see I'm taking the hit off of one survivor that would otherwise had gotten hooked. Even if I didn't get flashlight saved, that's a LOT of extra time before someone gets hooked which means more time on gens for the team and less time people having to run for unhooks and\or less opportunity for tunneling. You'll notice, however, is that the teammate doesn't just run for the hills and does a successful save. The quality of your gameplay will go up the higher your skill level pushes MMR. At higher MMR levels, survivors as a whole are incredibly strong. If you must do solo queue, work with your team, learn how to loop well, realize hook states are a team resource, and as you climb in MMR, your teammates will be of higher quality.

Another example of solo queue

You'll notice people are working together. This naturally happens the higher MMR you are which is why survivors are stronger at high MMR play.

It also helps tremendously to learn how to loop. I'm no great looper, but I know enough to hold my own while on solo queue. Here's an older solo queue video of me. If you can hold the killer's attention for a decent amount of time, that's gens that'll be flying by.

Long story short, the quality of solo survivor comes down to your quality. You'll inherently be at a disadvantage being solo queue due to a lack of communication, so you'll need to bring your A game. If you're that "rando" for those other survivors who can actually work with the team and hold your own in a chase, then you can overcome that inherent disadvantage to a point where solo queue objectively isn't that bad - and we have the official stats to show that. If you wonder how solo queue reports are so high, that's why - solo queue isn't much of an issue if you can hold your own. If you can't, the survivor team as a whole will certainly feel the pain.

Playing selfishly is absolutely your right to do - it's actually one of the things BHVR has pushed. Each survivor has their own win condition, there is no actual survivor "team", and even their advertisements asked will you work together or go at it alone? That being said, I do agree (as I had mentioned) that solo queue inherently has a disadvantage due to a lack of communication. I'm just stating that the higher your MMR is, the more likely you'll be getting better quality survivors on your team. That's why I encourage learning how to handle yourself and do well with looping if you do solo queue. Not only will you buy the other survivors more time on gens, but you'll also get the added benefit of increasing your MMR and in turn get better quality survivors on your team. Low to mid MMR solo queue is a bad experience. At higher MMR, the issue isn't as apparent, as high MMR survivors tend to naturally be more team oriented.

as a killer myself I actually agree, solo Q is the hard mode of dead by daylight and playing it stealthy gets you made fun of, not taking hits when you are halfway across the map gets you made fun of, pretty much everything you do gets criticized but that's not the point you made. the point you made is that its extremely difficult and almost impossible to win right?

well we killers are responsible for the difficulty and so is your team that you get but in the end if you all just work together even silently you will rule any match you come across

for anybody that gets this far in my rant as survivor here's an experiment for you to try

get in a swf with you and 3 other people but nobody can speak, I myself wanna try this out but have nobody to try it with so if you do this please record it and put it on YouTube and link it here for me to watch, as no matter if I get 100 or 3 I will watch them start to finish

im still waiting on where you get his assumption from. this never happened in TCM or any game i have ever played in the 20+ years of playing pvp with VC. not once i have ever come across anyone that targeted someone over someone muting them. TCM in particular had a pretty mixed bag of people with comms and people without so i really dont see where you get this idea from.

From playing just as long. You ever played a shooter? CoD? Nothing but toxicity. You haven't lived until a 12-year-old boy has hurled slurs at you. I've never seen a PvP where VC was anything less than viscious. DbD is already hostile. If you think all these BMing dicks who are outrageous in chat are just gonna be sunshine and rainbows in VC then you're naive.

As for targeting, it remains to be seen. DbD has a larger audience and older culture than TCM had, and a lot of ingrained toxicity. I've been sandbagged for minor offenses, I'm sure I'll be sandbagged for not talking too.

Yeah, I would turn it off asap with this community.

Comm system won't fix useless teammates, quite the opposite. If I wanted to talk with them, I would just go find group on Discord, not like it's hard…

Chat wheel is "safe", simple and effective.

Chat wheel is the way. It's at least start. There's only so much you need to say anyway.

First off, having comms doesn't make you a pro. Half my VC interactions are jokes and laughter, not clock callouts and militant plays. If anything, they're often a hinderance if you're being too silly. You can't blanket nerf SWF because there's too many forms. Most parties I play in aren't on comms, or sometimes some members are and some aren't. The system has no way to determine this. Even if you make parties visble to killers in the lobby, you still don't know if they're on comms. You'd be surprised how many parties aren't. I'm always in a party but I'm rarely on comms.

The game is designed around comms whether they intended to or not, simply because comms exist. Everyone can add people as friends in game. Everyone has access to Discord. Console players can chat without it. A killer can even invite a survivor to VC mid-game on console. The way the system is now allows you to vet people and have an immediately friendly stance so you don't have to talk to some unbearable random. Or have some backstabbing rat try to us the VC to turn their teammate into a shield with false info.

If open VC comes then the survivor wincon needs to change into win or lose based on the team outs, and individual ERs need to go. Because it would very much be a full team enterprise at that point.

Because it would be everyone, where it currently isn't. It's a whole-game change. Killers can't even handle more pallets. I can't imagine the tears and screams if survivors got comms. BHVR would have to compensate them somehow. Even if the comms ended up not being very beneficial at all, they would be perceived as such. There's already so much complaining about the SWF boogeyman as is.

It would be a disaster.
Believe me, I was a Counter-Strike player for many, many years. The amount of bad stuff that I have heard through voice chat in that game (a game that isn't particularly known to be toxic either), is concerning to say the least.

I believe the stats, since they also reflect my own (based on milestones). But the game is still so miserable in solo because of the amount of systems you end up being at the mercy of. Bad matchmaking screws you over, regardless of how well you play; new Killer powers that are meant to steamroll you with ease unless you're incredibly coordinated; smaller maps and less resources that limit your ability to recover; among other things. The pallet update is a thing, but we all know it's not staying.

What tactics? You can see slugged survivors auras. Complaining about no one touching gens is not a tactic.

Solo has the same issues as any other multiplayer title that saddles you with a team of random people. They will never do the stuff you want them to do, even if you're pinging DO GENS on your chatwheel thirty times in a row. They will always do the stuff they want to do.

exactly my point you cant nerf just one group of people which makes nerfing and buffing and balancing impossible untill everyone is on a level playing field. untill that happens there will always be a particular group that get raw end of it. at the moment its soloq. cant buff soloq without buffing SWF. buffed SWF with comms no matter how small this group may or may not be would be game breaking thats why survivors often dont get the buffs they need. look at the all the perks that seemed healthy in solo but SWF teams abused them so they got nerfed.

again you say people already use comms on xbox by sending invites so assuming that many people are doing this then it wouldnt be a big deal if we just made it so xbox players could talk to pc players via comms. But i doubt many xbox players are actually doing this. i played on xbox when i first started and i never did that besides, the xbox player base is a fraction on what the full player base is anyway. i would be interested to hear from xbox players how many are actually sending random people invites to use comms in the match. i do agree the ground is uneven for all players which is my point, how do you balance a game so soloq doesnt suck with such an unbalanced, uneven ground at its core. it cant be done. like it or not, if we are ever going to get balance where everyone has a good time, killer survivor, solo, swf then this uneven ground needs to be smoothed out a little. a big step towards that goal is making solo and swf more inline with eachother. comms is the way to do that. or a system that lets solo players call out hex locations, current whereabouts and other things SWF can do via comms.

cant buff soloq without buffing SWF.

Not so. You could give survivors basekit Kinderd or Visionary or another info perk. SWF on comms already have this info. They won't benefit much, if at all. In fact, many people in the forum have been calling for this.

But i doubt many xbox players are actually doing this.

I'm not on xbox but yeah, you have to be in a lobby with someone from your platform. You have to press a few things to do it. You have to care enough. When it's happened to me, I've ignored it. I've even had a few people hound me in game for ignoring it. As killer, I've messaged survivors mid-game. Some of these have gotten me immediate VC requests. It happens.

it cant be done

Exactly, it can't. Are you using an expensive headset or busted speakers with your kids screaming in the background. A tiny Switch screen or a pricey monitor or a giant TV. The ground will always be uneven, especially with the advent of crossplay.

or a system that lets solo players call out hex locations, current whereabouts and other things

This I'm 100% on board with. The game needs a chat wheel big time, with a basic list of dialogues. There is only so much to say if you're not on friendly terms.

Then the chat wheel should be fine. The only way to make that toxic is by using it to lie about info, and that wouldn't touch the potential toxicity of VC.

PC players have a lot of things console players don't, not just chat. This game was made for PC. Console players are second class. Some killers are incredibly hard on controller compared to KBM. Shaders are a good example, and any external settings outside the game. The difference is that a Switch user can never have shaders but VC is available if you jump through a few hoops. You, yourself, just aren't a team player and aren't likely making any friends the way you're playing. That's a choice. Play nice and make friends and you can chat.

The shield is up because 90% of my experiences with VC over a near 2 decades have been negative. I've had this talk with a lot of people and most feel similar. Even in this game I've had people I've immediately deleted because of how unpleasant they were on VC.

In this game, it's not backwards. People add me because I'm an altruistic team player. You make friends by proving yourself in game. The only exception has been people I've met thtough the forum, which allows you to form a pretty solid opinion of someone before playing with them or speaking to them. It'd be nice if the meet up section of the forum was more active, or if there were more ways to meet other similar players without having to speak. Not everyone wants to talk to strangers. The nice thing about texting or playing is you can feel people out first and not have to get blasted with explicitives, music, screaming kids, or whatever other nightmare awaits on the other side.

i think anyone that has played pvp with VC will know the levels of toxicity it can have but i have thicker skin than most it seems. there is literally nothing anyone can say in VC that would effect me, i have heard it all and it really doesn't bother me. maybe loud music playing would annoy me but simple mute and problem solved. how is playing altruistic proving yourself? i can meet very skilled, very altruistic peaple, add them to find they are unpleasant like you said you deleted some. playing nice in the game doesnt prove anything about the person, their views or attitude. my actions in the game might appear toxic to some but they dont see whats going on on my screen, i might have valid reason for not going for a save. They might then think im being toxic and not worthy of friending up due to my actions which i cant explain or justify in the match. if i had VC i could explain my actions and they could see im not being toxic, im doing what im doing for a reason.

personally i think judging someone based on in game actions is a poor way to judge if these people are suitable friends. it might work for you but i dont intend to prove myself as a worthy friend by my in game actions in the hope to earn comms. any friends i make i want to talk to them first before i add them.