So are we removing sprint burst on command from 2v8 too?

literally, everyone I see just preruns. I had a game of trapper on lerys and I found it practically impossible since you can't turn a corner without finding a window.

Also can we get rid of Lery's too its like the worst map in the game. (h/j)

Medic is also really good right now as 2 of them can instaheal everyone in a large radius everytime their ability is off CD, which also was only really countered.. By Deep Wound, which Legion is the only Killer except Deathslinger that can inflict that in 2v8 right now.

But the problem is the survivors are already extremely powerfull in 2v8 but people are so bad at the game that they dont see this, and BHVR keeping buffing them thinking they will have more desire to play but this is just making killer unplayable.

Yeah it's kinda insane SB on command i think it needs to go back to the original way

I'd rather keep it and last for an extra 5s while I'm getting two tapped, ngl.

Fun times, would definitely play 2v8 as a survivor even without the BP bonus and the instant queue, cough cough.

The survivor side is already the better side to play in 2v8 though.

several killer games in 2v8 and they were all miserable.

Yes, that’s the whole point. Some will find killer “unplayable” (I don’t) which helps reduce the number of people waiting in line to play killer. The whole point is to try to balance out the desirability of both sides as evenly as possible.

In a 1v1 scenario, yes, the Sprint Burst on demand is very strong. But if we consider the 2v8 scenario, Escapist is the worst class for survivor. I really would rather go against 4 Escapist than 4 Medics or 4 Scouts.

But yeah, depending on the killer you are playing it feels so bad to lose a down or a hit because of the Sprint Burst

Its not sprintburst on comnand (the strongest form of exhastion perk it was evere in DBD with og dead hard) but dont forget survivor gets like 6-8 seconds of quick and quiet with it plus when sluged he gets up faster than other classes because his cooldown is 30 soconds instead of 60 to 90 seconds.

I dont think it should be removed but its cooldown should be like 50 or 60 seconds because its wery strong effect that gives sprintburst to multiple survivors if they are close to escapist class and escapist gets quick and quiet and 30 second cooldown is joke for probably second strongest power in 2v8 survivors have (strongest is repearing pallets). Again this is ok against killers that can catch up like nurse,blight,billy,spirit,wesker,wraith and now dracula but using it against other killers its super easy escape and someone like slinger just eats the dust.

And even with that people don’t want to play the mode… imo 2v8 should alwayy give more bp to survivors to at least be the mode that gives more bloodpoints.

People do want to play 2v8. Just not as survivor.

While I personally find survivor in 2v8 a lot more enjoyable than in 1v4, but the lack of novelty (which is honesty impressive since this is, what, the 6th iteration?) leads to more people playing killer, which will always feel refreshing to play due to the multiplayer aspect.

BP will not make tons of people switch from killer to survivor. If people have the choice between something they have no interest in, but get chocolate for doing it and something theyreally like doing, it is only logical for them to pick the thing that is more fun to them. Especially after a long day of work.

I only queued up for 2V8 Survivor for something to do while waiting to play Legion, so I don't have a horse in this race anymore.

But can we maybe stop trying to get all the fun but broken things removed from the mode that's all about playing with fun but broken things? Thanks.

So… after two days playing non-stop this 2v8… yeah, Sprint Burst on command is idiot, LOL. It just makes people who are bad at chases gain one "free hit" if they know when to use this. It Old DH on steroids. Maybe they should rework this to dramaturgy (but without the negative effects) or just give finesse while the class maintain the normal sprint burst.

At the end of the day, Medic and Scout are stronger than Escapist but its quite stupid the way this class works. I'm playing Dracula on the 2v8 but i wonder how the weaker killers must be feeling against this.

Pretty sure I cough up with a Spring Burst survivor using Legion's power a few times in the last 2v8. They're usually the last person to hit before the power goes into cool down.

Compared to Dead Hard's history in 1v4, sure. But in the context of 2v8, its Dead Hard 2.0 that will just deny a killer from getting a proper hit.

It will save you 90% of the situations, specially when the 2 killers are nearby. The only killers who can mindgame and punish a survivor for using the Sprint Burst is Blight or Nurse, while everyone else gets absolutely ######### by pressing the funny button once you notice the killer is about to get the hit.

You do know there is a lack of survivors right?

Have you noticed there are several slots, hopefully that means they are planning to add more, like a boon class maybe

you do know that doesn't make old dead hard fun to go against right?

Exactly, specially with the play while you wait feature, there's more incentive to everyone try to both sides. There is no need to make one side stronger in hopes to deminish the queues of the other. Might as well give proper balance and content to both sides to make matches overall more fun.

Oni is very weak untill he gets power or if survivor runs into weak tiles that are easy to mind game with m1 but in general he sucks until he gets power and then its showtime.

Or give it bigger cooldown than 30 seconds, medic can heal 50% of health state in the area range with 90 seconds cooldown, scout has 60 seconds cooldown I think for pallet rebuild which is strong but escapist class still beats it for survivability, lastly guide has 60 seconds cooldown or 90 still Idk and his power is just mainly two perks in basekit but isnt much usefull just annoying or if you want do 95% and higher progressed gen into killers face but thats for YT or ttv people to get vievs. Escapist has 30 seconds cooldown for sprintburst but with quick and quiet which is strong for escape but worst for killer is that this ability is on comand with such small cooldown if it was 60 seconds than it wouldnt be so busted and on top of that you give every survivor around you like in 12 meters range or what 50% haste which is sprintburst too and many killers without catch up or insane speed are done there even wraith is just someone who wants to scare you more than injure you because he cant if survivor doesnt make mistake and runs from him.

So they should either make it to work as normal sprintburst which activates on pressing shift or give it minimaly 60 seconds cooldown because 30 seconds are joke and keep it as it is now.

Still I think original escapist class the first version was more busted you got sprintburst normal one without quick and quiet as now but cooldown was I think 20 seconds or 30 seconds and 20 exhastion something like that but you got WOO as now, when you were injured you had made for this speed 3% haste and now you give survivors around you sprintburst too but Im not sure if its 50% haste for just 2 seconds instead of 3 or if there is cap like for 2 survivors, just the old one didnt have cap or anything so he could gave sprintburst whole team if they were near him plus he had selfcare ofter being caged once like now which made this class just so easy to survive as and escape with more than now you had just strong info for chase, strong exhastion perk,made for this speed when injured and could heal your self alone to save time or when there was no one to heal you.