9.3.0 Pallet Density Changes (Awful maps nerf)
What in the hell have you done to loops in this patch?
Why most of the loops not even 50/50 but 70/30 in killers favor where you guaranteed a hit with 1st BloodLust or even without it. Why touch Haddonfield pallets at all when there's no decent windows.
Look:
Like what is that? How patch that should've helped survivors turned out to be significant nerf with styptic and syringe nerf and this pallet changes, how are you supposed to survive against killers like ghoul , blight , krasu , billy , dracula etc
Most of this maps were better before Pallet Density > then some of the maps became butchered because of it > and now it's even worse then before.
Coldwind got the same treatment, pallets also further apart so you can't really chain them.
Keep in mind that in the first iteration of Pallet Density they killed some of the main buildings to compensate for the amount of pallets, now that pallets are awful, main buildings are dead too, good job devs!
On the Gas Heaven breakable wall was removed
Breakable wall on the Groaning Storehouse also was removed
Both windows on Mother's Dwelling's main was permanently blocked
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Well anti tunnel was hursh, anti-slug too (especially for M1 killers) but the way they butchered maps and nerfed strong survivor stuff while strong killers staying the same is kinda wild, soloq stand no chance anymore lol
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this is how it should be. Learn how to actually loop small tiles. These are my favorite tiles to loop vs any killer. The only amount of skill left in dbd.
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Bait used to be believable. This can't be your favorite tile as you probably killer main but it's ok
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swamp has two tiles like these guess we just gotta learn how to loop small tiles.
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DBD 2025 lmao
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THIS NEEDS A REVERT
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You could say the exact thing about survivors, but sure let's keep being tribalistic
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you can’t actually unless you’re from a different reality. For the record i play more killer than i do survivor. Killer is going to be even less fun now with almost zero challenge because of these new tiles. Some people like me like a challenge, it’s why i thrived on souls games and competitive fighting games. Killer has become absolutely brain dead to play. With the odd exception because certain killers have been left behind.
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if killer is brain dead to play you are in low mmr hate to break it to you
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Lol low mmr as if mmr actually matters. News flash it doesn’t. If you played long enough you would know that. When people accuse someone of being low mmr they’re just telling on themselves.
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actually both windows being blocked is a good thing
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at what point did we say the loops were too strong it’s the fact there was too many of them on certain maps the devs aren’t actually real humans
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I wonder how it doesn't matter when on my account I verse comp players with up to 10,000 hours, but my brother, who has been playing for months yet is horrible, also plays with awful people that have up to 200. Lmao if killer is easy to play, you're just too bad to get out of the elo you're in. Having a sook on the forum won't do you much help either
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I’ve literally had tony the duff and a 20 hour player in the same lobby you’re clueless
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Bruh no way you said that when the SURVIVORS get their way most of the time and killers are the ones getting unfair treatment, while yes, both sides get favored from time to time, but recently, this game has been moving onto a heavily Survivor sided, and this is coming from a Survivor main btw, who's played this game for a very VERY long time
While yes, the veils were overnerfed and should have kept some opacity and kept them chargless bc the cooldown was already a compensation to it but not revert it back to how it was at first, like similar to dbd 2016 fog, where it wasn't too thin but not too thick, just enough to see but not too much where you can't see to far or too much where you can't see anything that's close
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Whatever helps you hate yourself less, nothing wrong with being low mmr sounds pretty fun since its so braindead.
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Some of the loops at the top of the list are literally still the same, I don't see the change in those at all, but the rest I understand, pallet density was terrible already bc it made chases pointless on killers end but regardless, they should revert it back to how it was BEFORE they even messed with it, bc it was perfectly fine, except for a few maps with too many double pallets
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There's a reason these pallets are called "50/50s," It's because there's a 50/50 chance the killer or the survivor double backs on these tiny ass loops. This is not a good change in the slightest. When the devs spoke about Pallet Density getting nerfed, we all assumed things would go back to the way they were before Krasue released. Now, we have the same amount of pallets, but basically all fillers are 50/50s, essentially making looping impossible unless you get really lucky and win 50s, while not fixing the problem of pallets being too chainable to other loops. So no, there is no "learning" how to loop something as luck based as these fillers.
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I will never cease to be amazed at how absolutely out of touch this dev team is with reality.
This was such a piss-poor update.
But, hey… at least we don't have new content until January so they can continue to 'fix' the game as part of Operation Health.
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Killer is brain dead? Please. All a survivor needs to do is press "Space" and they're okay. Oh? The killer is going the other way around to catch u after you dropped a pallet? Guess what? There's another 2 meters away so you can just rinse and repeat. If you're a survivor main that is complaining about the pallet density update, you're less than bad, since this update makes survivors gameplay child's play. Stop complaining for the wrong reasons
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Edit: Misread, sorry
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Okay bud if you’re losing mind games with the new tiles you’re just bad. You don’t even need coup to lunge around most of them now.
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We asked for revert, because their pallet density "QoL" was ridicilous on some maps. Noone would care if they made it for just Borgo and Haddonfield.
Just because devs screwed it is not really killers fault…2 -
Can a dev care to comment on this absolute travesty of a patch and what they were thinking
NOBODY WANTED THE LOOPS TO BE SHORTER
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Then SM isn’t the survivors fault, it’s BHVR that botched it.
Then Antitunnel and Antislug isn’t the survivors fault, it’s BHVR that botched it.
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They reverted Anti-Tunnel and slug but they ruined the game for every survivor rn, Autohaven has no pallets bro ts is unplayable.
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Then SM isn’t the survivors fault, it’s BHVR that botched it.
Then Antitunnel and Antislug isn’t the survivors fault, it’s BHVR that botched it.
That's correct.
I can have an issue with specific players, based on their opinions and ideas. But blame for this outcome is fully on devs.
I am definetly not going to blame whole player group for something outside of their control.3 -
Those changes are fine to me. That about 4 strongest need nerfs for a while? Yes. But I don't design the game and don't understand the pathetic statement to leave them as they are for another years.
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Coming from someone who plays both sides..
I'm just trying to figure out how the decision was to originally stop tunneling/slugging and one of dbds BIGGEST counters to surviving is pallets.. and they nerfed the pallets? 😂Pallet nerf wasn't needed at all and quite frankly the previous patch adding the crappy edge of map pallets weren't needed either. Learn to zone survivors and learn when its appropriate to drop chase. Or if you really hate pallets that much, bring a pallet build. Imagine.. using perks to cover your killers weaknesses.. crazy right?
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If I'm losing as killer, it's mostly to survivors doing gens too fast - BNP, hyper etc. So in 60s they have 2 gens done and one about 75 % progress. That is not killer's fault neither anything you can prevent untill you run boring 4-stacked slowdown. I never said tiles are bad, surely some oof maps needed adjustments indeed. But with nerfed tiles I'm worried that the only-gen matter era will be even worse because there will be nothing for survivor to extend chase and fast chases mean faster downs mean less time to waste = rush as much as possible. So I don't think this pallet changes will be good for either side.
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Uh. Yes? That is correct. Yeah some of the complaints were unwarranted and some people had irrational hate boners for SM but it was BHVR who took her behind the shed. Same with the overbearing nature of the anti slug and anti tunnel changes
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