Remove Onryo's lullaby
This existing makes absolutely zero sense. There is no point in being Undetectable if you put out a lullaby telling them you're there. You might as well just remove the Undetectable at that point because it's the same thing as a terror radius. It being directional makes no sense either, but the lullaby has no point in existing anyway. As long as the lullaby exists she isn't a stealth killer. Everyone knows she's coming and pre runs.
Onryo needs a lot more but this at least seems like a simple fix that would improve her QoL and let her actually be a little sneaky.
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I wish they give her some love and get rid of the boring teleport spam playstyles.
What I would like to see:
→ Remove condemned spread by teleports via TVs
→ Introduce condemned spread by spectral strikes (hits shortly after manifestation, teleports)
→ Switching of TV results in holding tape which passively gives you one stack of condemned every 30s (further switching Tvs grant instant half condemned)
→ Reintroduce the movie played in TV if any survivor is within 16m
→ Being hooked while holding tape causes all survivors holding tape receive one stack
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Just make it mapwide imo. The sound design is really nice so I don't want to see it go but survivors with VTR abuse it and make her stealth pointless for sure.
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Onryo is S tier already so if you're struggling that comes down to a skill issue. She gets to be invisible intermittently to help you sneak up.
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Maybe it could be constant on Survivors that have reached at least 3 Condemn stacks?
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Lmao even in her best state ever she was never S tier.
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There is an no "Sneaking up" If there is a lullaby. As mentioned above it should be map wide. Also Onyro has never been a "S Tier" Killer so please stop with the misinformation.
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S tier in baby MMR maybe when people don't know what tapes and tvs are and are getting moried but definitely no where near S for the majority of players.
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Any competent Onryo just destroys survivors at the macro level and denies inserting the tape since she can read your aura. Mori's the first survivor quickly then the last 3 have no chance.
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She can only do this if the survivors have no clue whats going on. Any competent survivor team will stomp her
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I used to main her before the tv spam update. Just liked playing her as a stealth killer. Then the visual heartbeat was added and made it like trying to stealth with trickster. I would like the luluby removed as shes not a ranged killer which is the main purpose of lulubys to tell people they are in shooting range of trickster/huntress. And wouldnt mind another rework to avoid the spamming playstyle, make the condemned more naturally occuring in some way so its not something the killer is actively forcing on survivors to try to kill them without any hooks
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I just explained that any skilled Onryo player denies the tape insert cause she can teleport all around the map. She's top 4 deadliest killer in Japan and top 3 in the world for a reason.
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She is one of the deadliest killers because most people aren‘t smart enough to do the counterplay. Literally all you have to do is turn of the TVs and she is a powerless m1 killer with an invisibility gimmick
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she can see your aura before you can turn off the TV. and if you turn off the TVs frequently you get tons of stacks which makes it easier to Mori you.
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You don‘t have to turn off gens frequently. Just the ones that affect you while doing gens, which is normally one. Doing so gives you 0 condemned for the first time and turns off the TV for 70 seconds. This is normally enough to do a gen and if everyone in the team does it she can literally not use her power.
She can only see your aura for a few seconds after she already teleported and when she has that one addon, which gives you more than enough time to turn the TV off before she can teleport again.
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Good Onryo will tele before you get to transfer the tape. Just watch One Pump Willie he doesn't even need aura add on to dominate 4 man SWF with Onryo.
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I really advise you to play her. Most survivors have no clue what’s going on hence her kill rate. When survivors apply her counterplay she gets stomped and yes those smart survivors are rare. One pump Willy is just lucky getting these survivors.
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I think the reason it existed was before they introduced the visual to TR and Lullabies. the sound was infrequent, so you had time to approach your survivor before they realized.
Now that there's a visual, theres a very glaring warning to the survivors that you are on your way, which nerfed her far more than the devs may have realized.
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This 💯
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