Can we stop nerfing soloq please?

I dont agree with the map offerings, they were abused by SWF's

I do agree that fog vials were nerfed too much, and it just feels like bhvr gave up, as they never really bothered reworking them, they just over nerfed them into being useless, and moved on.

I dont see the anti-camp nerf being a specific SoloQ issue.

I agree that we need to be done with the "dash killers", for multiple reasons, the more dash killers the bigger the gap will be if people play dash or non dash killers, unless non dash killers get a passive run bonus or something.

You didnt mention this, but the Distortion nerf was not needed, but swfs complained that "rats" used it to hide, guess what?

- they still hide.

And the answer i always get when talking about balance is we shouldn't balance for the top tier players because as you say the vast majority of matches are with "average and below average" players, so we need to be balancing around them.

Guess what, you can't have it both ways. If you balance the game around average level players, you must do that, and by definition that means that ghoul and nurse and blight are fine (and in the case of nurse she needs buffs) because they are always much lower in the kill rates than other killers.

If however you want to talk about balancing around top tier players, and that ghoul/nurse/blight are a problem. I would be happy to have that discussion, but then are you ready to deal with the consequences of that and the fact that at those levels we have like 6 killers who are even viable at that level out of the 40+ we have?

I see one

Do you honestly think it’s easy for any average killer player to go on a “huge non-stop winstreak”? If so, have you ever tried it yourself?

OK - it’s still incredibly rare for either side. Some people want all killer players nerfed because they saw a few YouTube videos of the best killer players in the world going on long winstreaks. On the flip side, some people want all survivors nerfed because of a few bully squads on comms who get easy wins. Both of these opinions are based on non-representative data.

100% this. The reason I don’t jump on the “solo queue is terrible because killers are OP” bandwagon is because I’ve seen countless times (while playing killer and while playing survivor) how solo queue teams can easily win when the survivors are actually skilled at the game. The only time I don’t have fun in solo queue is when my teammates go down 5 seconds after chase starts or people aren’t doing gens while someone else is obviously getting chased. A bad experience almost never has to do with how the killer played.

map offerings being gutted are just more useless clutter that no one asked for.

This is not true AT ALL. Many people asked for Map Offering nerfs or even complete removal for years. LOTS AND LOTS of people. Way more than the "bese-kit kindred and bond" you mentioned, that I barely even remember people asking. Check old forum posts if you doubt that. Map design has always been one of the most talked about problems in this game and one thing that always lead to complaints and rants was how people could simply use an offering to pick the most problematic, one-sided map in that favored them. Specially survivors, since there are four offering slots for the survivor's side and only one on the killer's side, and for a long time there were way more survivor-sided maps than killer-sided ones.

mostly used by soloq or low tier killers like doctor or vanity mirror myers,
(yes i know everyone used them, but it mostly effected were the weaker side)

This is also NOT TRUE. Map offerings were a very popular tool for tryhards in both survivor and killer sides. It was very, VERY common to see tryhard sweaty SWFs bringing a map offering (and no more than one, since they only needed one to have 100% chance of going to that map). Hell, everytime I noticed I was facing a TTV streamer, I would use a sacrificial ward in case of a map offering, and often someone actually brought one and it was cancelled by the ward.

As you played more and your MMR increased, you started facing survivors who were more skilled, had more hours of gameplay and higher-prestiged characters, map offering also became more and more common. The times when MMR was the most strict and I kept facing 4-man prestige 100s all the time was also the time I needed to bring sacrificial wards almost every match because of how insanely often map offerings would appear. And they would often not even take to an extremely survivor-sided map, but to a map that they knew better how to spread and run loops more consistently, like any form the Macmillan State. Map offerings were a tool for survivors at their STRONGEST, most optimal, not at their weakest.

And do you know who else used map offerings, specially Macmillan State offerings often? NURSES! Yeah, many Nurse players loved to bring an offering to a map they knew well how to navigate in so they could destroy survivors more easily. All you had to do is play survivor after 2 AM, at the time there were less players and many who stayed were people who play a lot, and there were great odds you would start seeing these tryhard Nurses with map offerings.

A lot of what you said in your post were just mentions on any survivor nerfs and assuming it was a nerf specifically to solo queues but not SWFs, but it isn't like that at all. SWFs used a lot of styptics and syringes, BNPs were nerfed too, and Chucky isn't a killer designed around SWF, hell, he doesn't even have the high mobility to deal with the biggest strenght of SWF!

Some killers and strategies used by the killer still exist in this game because their needed for facing Experienced SWFs

How much a killer can get done before a generator pops is what determines what killer or strategy is the best. If we can somehow nerf how fast these experienced SWFs get gens done to where mostly high mmr SWFs feel that change.

We can enforce harder protections on slugging, tunneling, and wouldn't need killers who can move around the map like superman. That directly helps solo Qers. Does it not?

My point is that you are basically saying that "X thing is broken because top level players can exploit it" and when people point out the stats showing that thing as actually not being that good the answer is "average players drag that down and inflate other ones"

You don't get to do that without also contending with the fact that there are 5 viable killers at the top level. Either:

1. You balance the game around top level players
2. You balance the game around average level players

It honestly seems like what you are asking for is that the devs balance around average survivors, but around top level killers. Which is quite frankly hella biased.

well obviously all the changes would have to happen at the same time, and i never said 3 killers.

I feel like it would help solo Q tremendously. Not needing bloated killers and annoying playstyles to go against the best would make the game a whole lot more fun imo.

How is that, based on what? Based on vibes? The map offering change nerfed tryhards and min-maxers for both sides because it LIMITED the number of advantages they can choose. It was extremely common for them to use it, now it's barely used because of the odds of them doing nothing. Why are we supposed to believe that somehow is worse for solo queue and low tier killers? Because you say so?

And again people DID ask for a map offering nerf and it was based on feedback. Deny as much as you want, it's a FACT that took place and you can check right here in this forums. Maybe YOU didn't ask for it, but speak for yourself, not for everyone else.

Chucky's original design was even WORSE against SWF. He had a 18 seconds cooldown for his power, which means he got punished hard for using his power for mobility, and every time he took a bodyblock in a dash, he would stay a ridiculous amount of time as a slow killer without his dashing ability. Just claiming it was "obvious" doesn't make it true.