Opinions on 8 gen kick limit?

Elan · January 24

Feel free to place your opinions here? Are they fair? Should be increased, decreased? Do they create unfun or boring gameplay?

ShanoaLegendaryPlz · January 24

Its so far prevented extra long 3 gen games. I recently had a round against a krasue in the nostromo map, and she would not leave the ship because she knew 3 generators spawn in the ship. That gen kick limmit helped us enough that she only got 2 hooks and we all escaped. Otherwise it wouldve been almost an hour long with either all of us slugged or someone eventually being tunneled off. The removal of "gen tapping" seemed fair enough compensation.

Emeal · January 24

Its a fine solution, it made the most egregious 3gen game playstyles too hard to be worth it.

Some perks could be changed to count more in the system, Perks such as Surge/Jolt which is incredibly strong.

melissayeti · January 24

I think there should a limit based on the killer. I also think they brought the feature after it was too late. We needed that limit during the COB/Overcharge/Eruption meta and when those perks got nerfed it didn't feel as bad being stuck in a 3-gen. I play Trapper a lot, and I know gens will fly, so I pretty much protect a 3-gen from the start of the match. If I do hit the 8 kick limit on a gen, it hurts. But if I'm playing someone like Blight then I never even get to the point that I reached the regression limit on a gen.

Skillfulstone · January 24

While the limit on kicks is unfortunately something that couldn't be avoided due to old "Chess Merchant" and (previously) powerful perks, the mechanic now (since most regression perks are shadows of their former selves and Merchant can't hold zones like before) could use some small tweaks.

While a kick limit (emphasis on kick) should stay, I think perks-triggered regression shouldn't count toward the limit anymore, or at least simultaneous regression events should count as only one, as it limits perk combinations (and the perks are much weaker now than when the limit should have been there) and easily backfires even when not purposefully trying to create a 3-gen.

For example, a Killer using Surge & Eruption will effectively have 3 kicks on a gen if they down close enough (easily achieved on high-priority/center gens like R.P.D. main gens or Ormond main gen), such gens are important since Survivors (to avoid a 3-gen later) will often try to get them early and gravitate around them, which means more kicks if the Survivors are good enough at pressuring those gens without going down too fast. It isn't unheard of (although extremely rare) for skilled SWF teams to purposefully make a Killer kick a specific gen multiple times by keeping it at high progress without finishing it in order to forcefully make this gen almost free in endgame by reducing the Killer's ability to stop progression.

A limit should exist to prevent ridiculous stalemates but, at least, simultaneous perk-triggered regression should only count as one regression event.

Side-note: the perk "Undone", a perk that already near-useless due to being entirely dependant on Survivors failing skillchecks often, actually uses two regression events if tokens are used when kicking (tested with a friend in customs), even if the perk activates upon kicking and not separately which makes it even more of a joke.

vito180 · January 24

My opinion on this is that it's wrong and specifically limits only one side of the players, and instead of such artificial restrictions, the developers should take a comprehensive approach to the problem rather than artificially restricting the players. To achieve this, it was necessary to redesign the interaction with generators in general, and provide assassins with tools to counter the triangle's game. Unfortunately, our development team is not capable of this, and balance is not a priority for our game. As a result, we have what we have.