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Revert Wesker Change’s Patch 9.5.0

SaltNest
SaltNest Member Posts: 10
edited March 29 in General Discussions

This is my final effort to save Wesker for multiple Wesker mains myself.

To start off i’d like to address the current patch with Wesker’s Power and why it feels clunky, unresponsive, and not smooth. Wesker in 9.5.0 feels janky and clunky because you can’t instantly use your 2 bounds and has an input delay which feels unnatural and awful. Before 9.5.0 Wesker was able to dash abd use his 2 tokens of dashes IMMEDIATELY with no buffer or delay in between bounds. This has spread a massive outrage to the Wesker players in the community such as myself.

Secondly, his power is more buggy than ever before since 9.5.0 came out. The speed boost bug upon damaging survivors and it didn’t give them that speed, it’s patched now but there are more underlying issues that aren’t being vocally addressed and aware of as far the community is concerned, For instance, i’ve played Wesker a lot since this update to get footage to showcase him now vs before. I’ve been grabbing people through cars and rocks and pallets coincidentally and I have been falsely reported for it. His power needs to be reverted and refined back to how it was, he was balanced, no one complained about Wesker. Now yes sure there are some bugs involving collisions or animations and such and touch up on them but the community demands reverting Wesker for the state he’s in currently.

Lastly, Wesker can no longer dash of edges and is immediately interrupted and is put to a halt. I can understand he would gain some distance but that was the fun aspect of Wesker and added a level of complexity which prevents the killer from feeling stale or incredibly linear. Another issue that seems to happen is, when dashing and theres a tiny curb you would immediately end the dash. Its costed me hits when ive dashed in a straightline just for a pixel of dirt or grass ends my dash abruptly.

To conclude my input on the issue, Fix the input delay on his dashes so he can instantly dash with 0 hiccups, Fix the issue where he’s able to grab through walls, and lastly revert the changes and dashing off elevations, if demogorgon can dash of ledges why can’t wesker?.

Thank you for reading this I hope this gives feedback so the community is more pleased and less frustrated.

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  • p100wesker
    p100wesker Member Posts: 7

    fr like i cant use wesker anymore he got nerfed so badly like u cant even do hug tech's and yeah i feel so bad for that choice

  • Rokku_Rorru
    Rokku_Rorru Member Posts: 3,328

    Hopefully they revert things, coz I don't understand what this update set out to do, he feels even worse getting grabbed by this patch and he can still grab through pallets all its achieved is it doesnt hurt you know

    I miss playing against old wesker

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,195

    From what I know his instaflicks are gone but it seems urobends are nerfed super hard I saw multiple clips where weskers dash only interacts with survivors only when his camera is dashinv into them not as before where you could dash and turn you camera to get that hit because if you didnt that survivor cant be injured if there isnt anything to slam him or throw him into like on coldwind maps.

    Sl its hige nerf to wesker he is just demogorgan now only with two dashes that apply infection and instead breakinv psllets he vaults them but thats it even draculas wolf form alone is better and way more usefull as killer than wesker, I havent watched the most latest changes but I believe there is lot more things that dont work so yeah wesker is now temu wesker shame.

  • SaltNest
    SaltNest Member Posts: 10
    edited March 29

    @MechWarrior3 Thank you for commenting and showing this! Im glad its getting attention because he feels awful currently. Thank you once again! I want BHVR to offically let us know that they see the issue and understand how crucial this issue is. A lot of people on my YouTube channel comment on my videos and say they bought him and got excited to try him out but was left disappointed because of the clunkyness. A lot of Wesker mains on Tiktok are leaving him because of this, creator named Xghosty on YT said he quits wesker till hes fixed :(.

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  • Cucumber
    Cucumber Member Posts: 5

    I've played a lot of games for Wesker... there are a lot of games after his patch.

    I used to play on the console and on the PC, I have something to compare with different controls and its different gaming capabilities. And it's just terrible.
    I'm feeling stressed.


    I grab the survivors outside the walls, but I can't turn around against the wall. I'm riding face-first against the wall, but I can't jump out the window. It seems like it takes forever to recharge (maybe you should be reminded of the Ghoul, who has no penalties for his ability at all?), the survivors mock and banter because they know that you can't close or do anything with your ability.


    The controls are unbearable. The jerk is not controlled, and the second jerk is often pressed immediately, even if you have not activated it. The addons are all broken due to the fact that their code clearly does not fit the new code. As a result, it turns out that the "cup", "emblem" and "uroboros" give the same effect — you just jump as far as possible, giving the survivors time to re-engage. As a result, you have lost.


    I remember two nerfs of the ability when you cut the infection rate and reset it on the hook. But in the end, you just took the killer away from the players. Do you know when the last really interesting videos and content on this killer were? A year and two years ago. His major mainers are no longer using him, there are no opportunities for new "chips" and I sincerely do not understand the reason for this HATRED of this killer and his players, and for the fans of Resident Evil. For what?
    Type... was it necessary for someone? Did the survivors complain about this on the forums?? God. Then give back to all the mainers the blood points spent on this character... You did the same thing with a Skull Merchant once, although the killer only needed to be weakened a LITTLE, but no. First you introduced him, then you destroyed the triangle game to make it easier for the stupid survivors, and now you've finished off Wesker. Thank you very much.

  • TNDuraEmin
    TNDuraEmin Member Posts: 2

    Yeah after a long time of practices, customs, trainings, everything i did with him. Almost 50gb of clips is now stays just as memories. It fells just awful now. It was entertaining, exciting etc. I remember that i was screaming so hard when i do smth that i've been practicing so hard. I felt the same thing with omni's just before the patch. It felt so good. But now.. It feels miserable. Bugs, unplayable mechanics, limited skills etc. I don't want it to stay just as memories. I wanna improve myself just more&more. I want this feelings back again. I hope we'll got our wesker back. We all do 🫡

  • Soma_RTA
    Soma_RTA Member Posts: 39

    If you like the killer not for the core design but for exploits its liable to get patched they aren't going to rebug it
    You should be lobbying for changes to his core design which is dogshit and has been shored up by exploits since he came out not begging them to rebug it which wont happen just look at oni

  • Rico7538
    Rico7538 Member Posts: 1

    I agree, this update really messed up wesker and he feels much more clunky to play as. Glad they fixed rebounds but the removal of sky wesker is really disappointing, very simple and fun tech that isn't even problematic, input buffering now also is extremely annoying, I've been practicing omni's and reverses before this update and now I can't sadly, wesker instead turns into michael jackson aswell as if you mess up an insta hug or smth it will just send u flying no matter what because u were holding down the button unlike before. Please just revert him, he was at a much healthier spot.

  • Fefe_kk
    Fefe_kk Member Posts: 1

    There are more bugs with him than before the update tbh. Chase music sometimes still NOT STARTING when grabbing a surv. Getting launched into the air, grabbing survs THROUGH WALLS. This is not what "fixing bugs" looks like.

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 3,645

    Dont forget Wesker just refusing to grab someone with bound. You can legit get vortexed with the power (old blight term where collision was so bad you would bump off nothing, which the ormond snow pile in the shape of a C was notorious for) and not be able to hit the person. Oh yeah and this

    https://x.com/Zyrav_/status/2038033448779055445

  • SaltNest
    SaltNest Member Posts: 10

    @Brimp I forgot to mention that yes, its so infuriating. Im gonna add that in the response. Thank you for adding your input :)!

  • RealAzure
    RealAzure Member Posts: 11

    I fully agree. BHVR needs to revert Wesker while implementing various bug fixes for when he is robbed of hits at windows, slides off of survivors with his bound, and where he somehow dashes backwards when flicking.

    Wesker does not feel good to play anymore and much of his skill expression has been removed. BHVR needs to consider that keeping fun techs and skill expression on a killer is a crucial factor to players sticking around to play their game. Why implement changes that actively disincentivize people to play? I understand they may have been trying to "fix" Wesker, but now he is worse. He has been reported to grab survivors through walls after the All Kill Comeback update. That is not an improvement and is frustrating for the survivor players as well.

    Revert him for the sake of both killer players and survivor players. Let him have his techs and skill expression. It motivates people to practice him and play killer. It motivates people to PLAY the game and gives us a reason to keep playing aside from blood point grinding because self improvement is a big motivator for myself and other players.

    I want to be able to play my favorite killer again without him feeling clunky or stiff. I also want to play against my favorite killer without being grabbed through walls in matches, or having the killer be robbed of a hit because of a bug since Wesker has also slid off of survivors with his bound. Reverting him will make him feel good to play as and against.

    Please, BHVR, revert Wesker.

  • ControllerFeedback
    ControllerFeedback Member Posts: 703

    oh how my blood boils seeing this issue be so eloquently condensed into one quick video

  • angrychuck
    angrychuck Member Posts: 522
    edited March 30

    You definitely can't insta from my experience but I was absolutely hitting some sick hug techs yesterday.

    It really doesn't help that this rehaul to his engine has also fixed none of the problems that we had issues with before, I've had several survivors in my last few matches just bounce off several objects when thrown and just continue the chase.

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  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,195

    Yeah seeing someone being thrown into solid object to just let then skinibert and slip from it is great thing, wesker has been buged a lot before but now with devs screwing up his techs that made him viable like urobending I would say he is low b-tier at best just two dash demo.

  • Draco781X
    Draco781X Member Posts: 1

    Revert wesker changes, he feels almost unplayable…we didn't invest our time just to see him gutted like this..every match the delay feels miserable, can't even do my insta flicks anymore..stop nerfing a killer for just so called "bugs" , try to play your own game first , yeah i openly calling to the devs, try to play your own game and then you will realise how sh*# your team is working..nerfing a killer which doesn't need a nerf at all and then favouring the survivor side

  • vol4r
    vol4r Member Posts: 1,042

    I've been learning how to do the techs for a while now and the changes really make me sad.

    It's like all the time we put into learning wesker is lost.

  • Nael
    Nael Member Posts: 2

    Insta flicks are impossible now thats true and it feels awful hopefully they didnt removed rebounds but its still a trash update for wesker mains