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Forced to farm
I'm wondering what others think of being a match with other survivors and a killer who are forcing you to farm instead of playing the match normally. I've seen how this goes, if you don't play along with whatever they want, then you'll get tunneled out or killed and the killer will let the others escape because they did farm in a way the killer wanted.
I'd personally want a normal match. If the killer wants to farm at the very end then yeah whatever. But if you're loading in and all you're doing is just forcing people to farm with you? Is that not reportable?
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I get so many complaints, survivor or killer, about playing 'too serious' and whatnot, or playing against/with people who ARE way too serious and toxic in endgame chat that when I get lobbies like this… I'm fine with it.
I'd rather have a goofy farm session every once in awhile to break up the monotony.8 -
Ive had to farm allot as killer in this event. But not because id just start the round and be friendly. Theres so many people just throwing the match at the first down, they will dc, they will stand at the hook, they will follow the killer around waving at them. At which point its not fair to the other 3 players that this one tried to ruin the round for everyone and itd just be a 3v1 for the rest of it. So i kill the one throwing, farm points with the other 3 not intending to kill any of them, just 2 hooks on each and kicking blood gens when i can. Im not exadurating when i say 60% of my matches in this event have atleast 1 person immediately throwing. So its been a lot of farming so that its not just some 3v1 stomp fest every time. To get reported for not just going "well screw them i wanna win" is a bit harsh.
As for what killers i was playing it didnt matter, i was on deathslinger/springtrap/ghoul/krasue/the first/houndmaster/trapper/trickster/xeno
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The absolute last thing I'm concerned about in this game is forced friendship between enemies.
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That is reportable yes, especially if it's survivors and killers working together to farm and you want a normal match and are being forced into the farming.
Personally when those things happen, I try to do the gens, get out of the match as quickly as possible - farming is not fun. It's a super grey area though, but its definitely reportable.
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If I'm in the mood to farm and someone doesn't want to play along I just leave them alone. They can do gens if they want, I'll just go play with one of the other survivors that do want to farm. I don't really get the need to specifically target them - honestly I usually just assume they don't realize what I'm doing.
I don't really purely farm that often though because I've noticed it seems to get me stuck in a cycle of lobbies that only want to farm and then I feel bad for eventually wanting to play normal against someone playing a tambourine for me.
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It's in the eye of the beholder.
I love a casual match where we all farm points, but it's rare to see that anymore. It's more often that you have a Killer that will hard tunnel 2 people out and force the remaining 2 to finish all the gens by themselves and I don't participate in that. For one, starting the trial that sweaty makes me distrust you. Secondly, I don't want to help someone that ensured two of the people in my team weren't able to play.
The big caveat being that a "normal" trial is a camp/tunnel/slug fest right out of the gate because there are no systems to prevent it like we were told there would be.
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I'd rather have a normal match. I don't appreciate wasting my time doing 4 gens, only to get cornered by 3 teammates and the killer at the end, and get killed as the only gamer, just because I didn't want to run around for 20+ minutes to throw all the pallets, get downed, heal up, get downed again, get hooked, farmed, hooked and repeat. Besides because there is right now a BP event more people are doing this right now.
Thank you, that is all I needed to know.
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I actually agree with both you and Mandy here. If you are singled out for NOT farming, then yeah, report em'
I just personally go with the flow of the match. If I see a killer pulling what they did on you, I switch back off farm mode and bodyblock for whoever is being tunneled.3 -
I have seen so many people team with the killer this week it's infuriating i'm looping my butt off and people are working with killers an letting that person who does nothing all game go
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Well now i know never to farm again. Even if someone throws. Don't want to get banned for it afterall.
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No one should ever be forced to farm or bullied for not farming. If someone wants to play normally, let them finish the gens and go.
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Me as a Killer and Survivor its honestly the most annoying thing in the game. Yes its fun to farm but its boring AF. I was slugged all game because I was doing the Gens and the survivors Tbagged me and repeatedly picked me up just for the killer to Down me.
Its why I perfer playing Killer. I just enjoy winning my matches. Ill make a post on it I actually screen shot the match. I reported them and I hope they get banned
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Here it is. Slugged the entire match. This was the start of it. 30mins on the floor and after a bit I was repeatedly picked up and downed until I died
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Exactly, if I ever see a killer get banned for trying to be friendly this games community is cooked lmfao
I don't want to ever see that even considered unless its clearly keeping someone in a match hostage!
Also @Skeleton23 you can't be slugged for 30 minutes, plus you can also abandon if slugged multiple times.4 -
Could you imagine being banned for this? The occasional friendly killer is an absolute joy between getting tunneled and slugged every other match. I've never done a full-on farming match as killer, it's just not my thing, but I love having friendly interactions with survivors who got a raw deal because their teammates DCed or sandbagged. I don't know if I'd want to play without those nice moments.
Being treated badly because you refused to participate is different, but I've never seen that happen. When someone doesnt want to be involved, they just sit on gens and leave.
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Yea because there is nothing monotonous at all about farming. Just triple hook me and send me on my way to an actual match of dbd. It's 2026 spending 20 minutes farming is not more efficient than just playing another match unless it's those people sniping each other with farming setups.
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You know i was not being completely serious about the 30mins right. It was a exaggeration
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I’m sorry to tag you but I was hoping for clarification on this as I want to make sure I’m not breaking the rules. Are you saying it’s reportable to farm entirely, or are you saying it’s reportable to farm and then get upset if one person doesn’t and then kill them?
I ask because I love to farm as killer specifically during events, where everyone works together as a team for a bunch of event quests and gets lots of blood points. Is what I’m doing not allowed?
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I still think about this Nemesis that carried me with Mad Grit and repeatedly hit the air around me.
I would have died for that man, but he dropped me at the exit gate and watched me crawl out. It was such a shame, best killer I've seen in years.
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Farming normally is fine. It's only not okay if you're forcing someone to farm. There are a few posts of the mods saying as such so you're perfectly fine!
If someone is trying to do gens and wants nothing to do with it, and then you single them out by slugging, or killing them while not doing that to the others, that's reportable.
If I plan to farm during an event, I tend to play a match out normally, 2-hooking everyone and then I mess around. I find this has the best reception as the survivors get a normal-ish game and everyone gets plenty of bloodpoints.
Edit: The only thing I'm not sure on is if a single player didn't want to farm, and you 2-hooked them, and then let them do whatever after. I've had that happen to a survivor teammate a couple times.
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Ah, I appreciate the clarification! .I would never force someone to farm, but thankfully I’ve never come across someone who didn’t want to. Thank you for clearing that up!
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Personally, I queue up for a match because I want to play the game.
However, since the killer is alone on their side, they have the biggest influence over how the match will go down.
So if the killer is friendly, I play along for a bit and then just go and do generators to get it over with.
And if the killer decides to kill me instead, that's just another way for me to move on to the next match, so that's fine too.-1 -
I don’t think you have that right. If killer allows some survs to farm and kills others that isn't breaking the rules. It is effectively tunneling which is not reportable. The only time anyone is breaking the rules in this situation is if the farming survivors actively help killer find the one who won't engage with the farming because that's workimg with the opposite team.
The latter example, forcing someone to stay in the game when they don't want to farm and refusing to kill them, that IS breaking the rules because you're refusing to engage in normal gamrplay AND are actively preventing them from being able to progress to next match. You're technically sandbagging, especially if you prevent them finishing gens.
Tagging dude who asked the question too just to prevent misinformation
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It's always been complained about and I really don't understand it. Friendly Killers that force healing are super annoying, but who really gets upset about pallet farming? The aforementioned "normal" trials cause so much burnout.
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I have seen Mandy respond in the past on the forums that farming is a gray area. Basically, it's not reportable in itself but if a player is forced to participate then it becomes reportable. This is what seemed to happened to the OP from their description and that's why it is reportable.
Of course , I'm not Mandy so will let her confirm for you.
Personally, I don't mind seeing it if the killer plays normal but then switches to farming once we are all on death hook. The ones I find boring are the killers that do nothing all match and stand around watching you do gens.
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Got ya. Yeah I would never force them to farm if they didn’t want to, and I normally only ever do it specifically if I’m trying to do a challenge or something. Mostly for event stuff. Like I’ll slap the hook a few times and they understand I want some hooks and then they line up in pretty little rows and let me get em haha. And then I’ll let them get some pallet stuns or wiggle out etc.
In any case, I appreciate you letting me know your thoughts. I think until there’s some kind of official stance on it, I’ll just do what I do unless specified it’s not allowed. I haven’t ever had anyone not want to participate, so hopefully that remains to be the case. I never wanna upset people by it, but thankfully people seem grateful for the breather.
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Yeah, it's just as you said. I meant more, the killer singles one person out and kills them specifically because they didn't want to farm. Not, sacrificing one or two out and farming with the rest. I certainly could have clarified that better.
Edit: I cleaned up my post. I was yapping.Post edited by ohheyitsbobcat on-1 -
What happens when you report them? Are they getting banned or something else?
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And how you proof it?
If there is hardcore tunneling that isnt bannable (logicaly because killer is doing what he supposed to and thats killing survivor even when he is using shortcut) than how can this be used, you would need like record the whole game even when spectating to have enough proof.
I would be surprised if devs banned for this more than cheaters (which they dont ban or it takes eges).
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My experience with this is this happens rarely enough for me it's a change of pace in my matches so I'm not really bothered by it
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That's what I'm saying. You wouldn't be able to prove it, unless maybe the person was streaming and said as such or they said something in end game chat. Even then, I don't know if that would be considered reportable and is such a hyper-specific situation, I shouldn't have even brought it up.
I was just yapping.1 -
It was in prehistoric times of this game being friendly as killer considered chad move when there was no mmr but old og ranks, the more points you had the more pips you get and if you died fast with few points you deranked so bing bonk wraiths that let everyone farm were wanted, nowdays they are wanted as overused social workers, times change.
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I think its deffinitely reportable but how you prove it like ban one guy for one thing and you set a precedent that now makes issue like they ban one guy for not killing other three survivors just one and other killers which will do same wont get in this very simular issue same treatment.
So as you say I dont see it doable unless it happens to some high end dev than it would be possible but with internet working how it does I dont think it would stay like that.
Thing is you cant be sure with nothing nowdays (in DBD) like we dont need to even go much further look at skullmerchant just few numbers because people gave up under hooks to not get dc penalty and some twitter communities yapping about her to devs and that brutal change that effected everyone (some more some little to none but she sucks for everyone now).
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I hate farming and will make it clear, on both sides, that I'm not interested. As survivor, I just smash the gens and leave. I can only recall one match a loooong time ago where they seemed to take it personally that I didnt want to farm, but I ended up just afking and folding/putting away some laundry. I also remember one game being sus on the farming Pig they were working with, especially how close she was hovering when they came and joined me on the last gen. So I left and went near an exit gate, and sure enough she had NOED and endgame perks. I was the only escape lol
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I'd suggest just go hide away from them when possible. do solo gens. usually the survivors wont look for you cause they'll be too busy dropping palettes for the killer or maxing chase. Won't be a normal match regardless but the sooner you finish the gens to get out the better in that case
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Yeah that's just tunneling effectively. Not reportable
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The fake friendlies are the worst. I haven't had one in a long while, but I'm still cautious of friendly killers, especially when they're friendly from the get-go and there wasn't some turning point. I also used to get ones that would go AFK until the gens finished and then come to life with everyone goofing off around them and then down the whole team with NOED. Matches like that gave me trust issues.
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Oh yeah, I have trust issues with afk killers too lol though I can honestly say i can't recall one in recent memory that ever suddenly came back for endgame. Still sus though
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If you hold shift they can't heal you, it will stop them farming their heal points.
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I believe the reporting part of this is teaming. Where the killer and survivor hunt down other survivors to harass or kill them.
Farming, while a grey area, does not meet the criteria of reporting unless the "forced to" is more than just trying not to kill you. Punishing for not joining in for example.
If farming in itself was punishable then the majority of the playerbase would be banned. Farming is very common when one survivor DCs or gives up early. To continue in a 3v1 at 5 gens with the same mindset as a comp 4v1 at the risk of being punished will drive more survivor complaints and toxic behavior.
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You usually get the "vibe" of someone who's not interested. If I get the vibe I'll leave them be.
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Could YOU imagine doing 4 to 5 gens, while your teammates refuse to do anything but run around and just drop pallets or fill cans with blood and leave them for the killer to kick repeatedly for 20+ minutes, then they rat you out and body block you, get you downed repeatedly until the killer kills you or slugs you and bleeds you out? How is that being friendly? How is that fun or fair? It's not.
When I posted this question I had 3 matches like that in 1 day, hence my post. IDK what was going on that day but it was miserable and I just wanted normal teammates and a normal match. I don't mind farming or being friendly AT THE END of a trial, but when you get targeted and can only choose between either eating the DC-penalty OR sitting through all of that, yeah I will 100% clip them and report them.0 -
Yeah that's clearly not what Rokku and I were talking about here. That's not being friendly if you're targeting someone. The concern was it being reportable and getting genuinely friendly killers into trouble.
I've also never once had what you're describing happen, either to me or someone else in the match, nor would I participate in griefing a teammate because they don't want to be involved. I've had people who don't want to interact with the shenanigans but the killer has always just ignored them. I can't even recall the last time I had a killer that wants to farm.
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You are responding in a thread I made, and since you're not understanding the situation that I described and was talking about, that is why I'm addressing you to set the record straight about the actual subject matter of this post. And not what others are trying to make it into.
Also just because you've been lucky not to experience such a horrendous game, doesn't mean that your experience is universal. If it was, I wouldn't have made this post. But I already got my answer from Mandy.-1 -
I understand what you're saying, but Rokku expanded it to the risk of killers being reported entirely for fully well-intentioned farming. What you're describing is clearly reportable as griefing, because if everyone is terrorizing one person that's clearly what that is.
I don't know if "lucky" is the word I'd use. My matches are just a different type of bad My last survivor session included both a Twins and a Krasue repeatedly slugging and not hooking anyone until they had all four players down or people bled out. My matches involve endless hard tunneling and slugging for the 4k, or killers who are so aggressive my teammates DC and the killer still has zero mercy for me. I wish I could get some friendly or farming killers.
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I don't think anyone is going to report a killer who farms and lets everyone go. Nor do I think that it's as "risky" as you guys make it seem out to be, considering the people at BHVR would have to go over such reports and judge for themselves, and if what you're saying was the case, then it's not reportable nor an issue. Thus it would be dismissed.
As for getting slugged and hard tunnelled, that's just today's DBD. Which is a bit sad.0
